On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:11:54PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 03:02:00PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote: > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 01:01:12PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > > > On 5/13/20 12:46 PM, Dave Martin wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 09:43:52AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > >> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 05:36:58PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote: [...] > > > >>> +If > > > >>> +.B PR_SVE_VL_INHERIT > > > >>> +is also included in > > > >>> +.IR arg2 , > > > >>> +it takes effect > > > >>> +.I after > > > >>> +this deferred change. > > > >> > > > >> I find this a bit hard to follow, since it's not clear to me whether the > > > >> INHERIT flag is effectively set before or after the next execve(). In other > > > >> words, if both PR_SVE_SET_VL_ONEXEC and PR_SVE_VL_INHERIT are specified, > > > >> is the vector length preserved or reset on the next execve()? > > > > > > > > It makes no difference, because the ONEXEC handling takes priority over > > > > the INHERIT handling. But either way INHERIT is never cleared by execve() > > > > and will apply at subsequent execs(). > > > > > > > > Explaining all this properly seems out of scope here. Maybe this should > > > > be trimmed down rather than elaborated? Or perhaps just explain it in > > > > terms of what the kernel does instead of futile attempts to make it > > > > intuitive? > > Hmm, if we don't explain it in the man page then we should at least point > people to somewhere where they can get the gory details, because I think > they're necessary in order to use the prctl() request correctly. I'm still > not confident that I understand the semantics of setting both > PR_SVE_SET_VL_ONEXEC and PR_SVE_VL_INHERIT without reading the code, which > may change. On this point, can you review the following wording? I simply enumerate the possible flag combinations now, rather than tying myself in knots trying to describe the two flags independently. Cheers ---Dave --8<-- PR_SVE_SET_VL (since Linux 4.15, only on arm64) Configure the thread's SVE vector length, as specified by (int) arg2. Arguments arg3, arg4 and arg5 are ignored. The bits of arg2 corresponding to PR_SVE_VL_LEN_MASK must be set to the desired vector length in bytes. This is interpreted as an upper bound: the kernel will select the greatest available vector length that does not exceed the value specified. In par- ticular, specifying SVE_VL_MAX (defined in <asm/sigcontext.h>) for the PR_SVE_VL_LEN_MASK bits requests the maximum supported vector length. In addition, arg2 may include the following combinations of flags: 0 Perform the change immediately. At the next execve(2) in the thread, the vector length will be reset to the value configured in /proc/sys/abi/sve_default_vector_length. PR_SVE_VL_INHERIT Perform the change immediately. Subsequent execve(2) calls will preserve the new vector length. PR_SVE_SET_VL_ONEXEC Defer the change, so that it is performed at the next execve(2) in the thread. Further execve(2) calls will reset the vector length to the value configured in /proc/sys/abi/sve_default_vector_length. PR_SVE_SET_VL_ONEXEC | PR_SVE_VL_INHERIT Defer the change, so that it is performed at the next execve(2) in the thread. Further execve(2) calls will preserve the new vector length. In all cases, any previously pending deferred change is can- celed. The call fails with error EINVAL if SVE is not supported on the platform, if arg2 is unrecognized or invalid, or the value in the bits of arg2 corresponding to PR_SVE_VL_LEN_MASK is outside the range SVE_VL_MIN..SVE_VL_MAX, or is not a multiple of 16. On success, a nonnegative value is returned that describes the selected configuration, which may differ from the current con- figuration if PR_SVE_SET_VL_ONEXEC was specified. The value is encoded in the same way as the return value of PR_SVE_GET_VL. The configuration (including any pending deferred change) is inherited across fork(2) and clone(2). For more information, see the kernel source file Documenta- tion/arm64/sve.rst (or Documentation/arm64/sve.txt before Linux 5.3). Warning: Because the compiler or run-time environment may be using SVE, using this call without the PR_SVE_SET_VL_ONEXEC flag can lead to unpredicable behaviour in the calling process. The conditions for using it safely are complex and system-dependent. Don't use it unless you really know what you are doing. -->8--