On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:49:52PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 11:34 AM Will Deacon <will@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > The root of my concern in all of this, and what started me looking at it in > > the first place, is the interaction with 'typeof()'. Inheriting 'volatile' > > for a pointer means that local variables in macros declared using typeof() > > suddenly start generating *hideous* code, particularly when pointless stack > > spills get stackprotector all excited. > > Yeah, removing volatile can be a bit annoying. > > For the particular case of the bitops, though, it's not an issue. > Since you know the type there, you can just cast it. > > And if we had the rule that READ_ONCE() was an arithmetic type, you could do > > typeof(0+(*p)) __var; > > since you might as well get the integer promotion anyway (on the > non-volatile result). > > But that doesn't work with structures or unions, of course. > > I'm not entirely sure we have READ_ONCE() with a struct. I do know we > have it with 64-bit entities on 32-bit machines, but that's ok with > the "0+" trick. Other than the two trivial examples Arnd and I spotted, it looks like we're in for some fun with the page-table types such as pud_t but that /should/ be fixable with enough effort. However, I'm really banging my head against the compiler trying to get your trick above to work for pointer types when the pointed-to-type is not defined. As a very cut down example (I pulled this back out of the preprocessor and cleaned it up a bit): struct dentry { struct inode *d_inode; }; static inline struct inode *d_inode_rcu(struct dentry *dentry) { return ({ typeof(0 + dentry->d_inode) __x = (*(volatile typeof(dentry->d_inode) *)&(dentry->d_inode)); (typeof(dentry->d_inode))__x; }); } Trying to compile this results in: | In function 'd_inode_rcu': | error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct inode' whereas it compiles fine if you remove the '0 +' from the first typeof. What am I missing? Perhaps the compiler wants the size information of 'struct inode' before it will contemplate the arithmetic, but if so then I don't think we can use this trick after all. Hmm. Will