On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:33 AM, Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's always documented as: "selinux=1 security=selinux" so security= should > still do the job and selinux=1 become no-op, no? The v3 patch set worked this way, yes. (The per-LSM enable defaults were set by the LSM. Only in the case of "lsm.disable=selinux" would the above stop working.) John did not like the separation of having two CONFIG and two bootparams mixing the controls. The v3 resolution rules were: SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM_VALUE overrides CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE. SECURITY_APPARMOR_BOOTPARAM_VALUE overrides CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE. selinux= overrides SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM_VALUE. apparmor.enabled= overrides SECURITY_APPARMOR_BOOTPARAM_VALUE. apparmor= overrides apparmor.enabled=. lsm.enable= overrides selinux=. lsm.enable= overrides apparmor=. lsm.disable= overrides lsm.enable=. major LSM _omission_ from security= (if present) overrides lsm.enable. v4 removed the per-LSM boot params and CONFIGs at John's request, but Paul and Stephen don't want this for SELinux. The pieces for reducing conflict with CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE and lsm.{enable,disable}= were: 1- Remove SECURITY_APPARMOR_BOOTPARAM_VALUE. 2- Remove apparmor= and apparmor.enabled=. 3- Remove SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM_VALUE. 4- Remove selinux=. v4 used all of 1-4 above. SELinux says "4" cannot happen as it's too commonly used. Would 3 be okay for SELinux? John, with 4 not happening, do you prefer to not have 2 happen? With CONFIGs removed, then the boot time defaults are controlled by CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE, but the boot params continue to work as before. Only the use of the new lsm.enable= and lsm.disable= would override the per-LSM boot params. This would clean up the build-time CONFIG weirdness, and leave the existing boot params as before (putting us functionally in between the v3 and v4 series). -Kees -- Kees Cook Pixel Security