On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 09:40:22AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Paul E. McKenney > <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Agreed, and my next step is to look at spin_lock() followed by > > spin_is_locked(), not necessarily the same lock. > > Hmm. Most (all?) "spin_is_locked()" really should be about the same > thread that took the lock (ie it's about asserts and lock debugging). Good to know, that does make things easier. ;-) I am not certain that it is feasible to automatically recognize non-assert/non-debugging use cases of spin_is_locked(), but there is aways manual inspection. > The optimistic ABBA avoidance pattern for spinlocks *should* be > > spin_lock(inner) > ... > if (!try_lock(outer)) { > spin_unlock(inner); > .. do them in the right order .. > > so I don't think spin_is_locked() should have any memory barriers. > > In fact, the core function for spin_is_locked() is arguably > arch_spin_value_unlocked() which doesn't even do the access itself. OK, so we should rework any cases where people are relying on acquisition of one spin_lock() being ordered with a later spin_is_locked() on some other lock by that same thread. Thanx, Paul