Hi Paul, On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 03:17:16PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 01:59:38PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > I thought Paul was talking about something like this case: > > > > CPU A CPU B CPU C > > foo = 1 > > UNLOCK x > > LOCK x > > (RELEASE) bar = 1 > > ACQUIRE bar = 1 > > READ_ONCE foo = 0 > > More like this: > > CPU A CPU B CPU C > WRITE_ONCE(foo, 1); > UNLOCK x > LOCK x > r1 = READ_ONCE(bar); > WRITE_ONCE(bar, 1); > smp_mb(); > r2 = READ_ONCE(foo); > > This can result in r1==0 && r2==0. Thank you, that is extremely enlightening :) > > I think we need a PPC litmus test illustrating the inter-thread, same > > lock failure case when smp_mb__after_unlock_lock is not present so that > > we can reason about this properly. Paul? > > Please see above. ;-) > > The corresponding litmus tests are below. How do people feel about including these in memory-barriers.txt? I find them considerably easier to read than our current kernel code + list of possible orderings + wall of text, but there's a good chance that my brain has been corrupted from staring at this stuff for too long. The only snag is the ppc assembly code, but it's not *too* horrific ;) > PPC lock-2thread-WR-barrier.litmus > "" > (* > * Does 3.0 Linux-kernel Power lock-unlock provide local > * barrier that orders prior stores against subsequent loads, > * if the unlock and lock happen on different threads? > * This version uses lwsync instead of isync. > *) > (* 23-July-2013: ppcmem says "Sometimes" *) > { > l=1; > 0:r1=1; 0:r4=x; 0:r10=0; 0:r12=l; > 1:r1=1; 1:r3=42; 1:r4=x; 1:r5=y; 1:r10=0; 1:r11=0; 1:r12=l; > 2:r1=1; 2:r4=x; 2:r5=y; > } > P0 | P1 | P2; > stw r1,0(r4) | lwarx r11,r10,r12 | stw r1,0(r5) ; > lwsync | cmpwi r11,0 | lwsync ; > stw r10,0(r12) | bne Fail1 | lwz r7,0(r4) ; > | stwcx. r1,r10,r12 | ; > | bne Fail1 | ; > | isync | ; > | lwz r3,0(r5) | ; > | Fail1: | ; > > > exists > (1:r3=0 /\ 2:r7=0) We could also include a link to the ppcmem/herd web frontends and your lwn.net article. (ppcmem is already linked, but it's not obvious that you can run litmus tests in your browser). Will -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arch" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html