On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I have to ask... Does this mean we can remove the current > restrictions against 8-bit and 16-bit access from smp_load_acquire() > and smp_store_release()? I'd certainly be ok with it. Alpha doesn't have acquire/release semantics anyway (really, it's the worst memory ordering model *ever*), so those will end up being just plain (access-once) loads and stores, followed/preceded by a memory barrier anyway. So it arguably is no worse than the existing situation with ACCESS_ONCE() on alpha. And quite frankly, I simply don't think that an old broken alpha architecture should be something we worry about. Remember: the byte and word ops were introduced in 21164, and released in 1996, so it's not even like "alpha has broken behavior". It's literally just "the very earliest alphas were broken", and I suspect most of those machines (at least running Linux) weren't even SMP (ie somebody may still have a Multia around for sentimental reasons, but SMP? No). Of course, I'd like there to be a real reason to do so, not just "who cares about really old alphas, nyaah, nyaah, nyaah"? But if there is a clear case where a byte load-acquire and store-release would improve on something important, then yes, I think we should do it. We dropped support for the original i386, we can drop support for old broken alphas. People running them for sentimental reasons might as well be sentimental about software too, and run old kernels ;) Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arch" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html