[Sorry for the late reply. I am in pre-long-vacation mode trying to
clean up my desk]
On Thu 12-09-13 08:59:38, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 02:56:59PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > Hmm, wait a second. I have completely forgot about the kmem charging
> > path during the review.
> >
> > So while previously memcg_charge_kmem could have oom killed a
> > task if the it couldn't charge to the u-limit after it managed
> > to charge k-limit, now it would simply fail because there is no
> > mem_cgroup_{enable,disable}_oom around __mem_cgroup_try_charge it relies
> > on. The allocation will fail in the end but I am not sure whether the
> > missing oom is an issue or not for existing use cases.
>
> Kernel sites should be able to handle -ENOMEM, right? And if this
> nests inside a userspace fault, it'll still enter OOM.
Yes, I am not concerned about page faults or the kernel not being able
to handle ENOMEM. I was more worried about somebody relying on kmalloc
allocation trigger OOM (e.g. fork bomb hitting kmem limit). This
wouldn't be a good idea in the first place but I wanted to hear back
from those who use kmem accounting for something real.
I would rather see no-oom from kmalloc until oom is kmem aware.
> > My original objection about oom triggered from kmem paths was that oom
> > is not kmem aware so the oom decisions might be totally bogus. But we
> > still have that:
>
> Well, k should be a fraction of u+k on any reasonable setup, so there
> are always appropriate candidates to take down.
>
> > /*
> > * Conditions under which we can wait for the oom_killer. Those are
> > * the same conditions tested by the core page allocator
> > */
> > may_oom = (gfp & __GFP_FS) && !(gfp & __GFP_NORETRY);
> >
> > _memcg = memcg;
> > ret = __mem_cgroup_try_charge(NULL, gfp, size >> PAGE_SHIFT,
> > &_memcg, may_oom);
> >
> > I do not mind having may_oom = false unconditionally in that path but I
> > would like to hear fromm Glauber first.
>
> The patch I just sent to azur puts this conditional into try_charge(),
> so I'd just change the kmem site to pass `true'.
It seems that your previous patch got merged already (3812c8c8). Could
you post your new version on top of the merged one, please? I am getting
lost in the current patch flow.
I will try to review it before I leave (on Friday).
Thanks!
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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