On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thursday 10 January 2013, Alex Courbot wrote: >> > Regarding the integration of pinctrl with gpio, >> > I was thinking in the past that we could make pinctrl provide everything >> > that gpiolib does, and have a generic gpiolib driver on top of pinctrl >> > so that platforms don't need to implement both interfaces but only need >> > to provide a pure pinctrl driver. Not sure if this makes any sense. >> >> That would work if all GPIOs were connected to a ball, but how about GPIO >> expanders that are external to the chip? They have no use for pinctrl AFAICT. >> On the other hand, maybe we can have one pinctrl-gpio driver for those chips >> where pinctrl alone can emulate all the functionality of a GPIO controller. >> Maybe such a driver exists already? > > I don't think we have that yet, but it would be another option: rather > than putting a generic gpiolib driver on top of pinctrl, we could have > pinctrl support for all gpios that go through gpiolib, and move device > drivers over to use pinctrl as the way to manage gpios rather than the > classic gpio drivers. That would be a larger change though, and require > that we pull in the pinctrl subsystem on a lot of machines that don't > need it today. Not quite following but have the following loose idea: - Add API such as <linux/pinctrl/gpio.h> with struct pin_gpio_ops {} or similar. As orthogonal to the mux and config interfaces we already have. - Add ops like .set_input(), .set_output(), .drive_high() and .drive_low() (etc) to the ops struct so all functionality currently provided by gpiolib can be implemened by a driver. - Make global pin numbers optional in gpiolib for the next part... - Register a generic GPIO chip on top of the pinctrl-gpio.c, preferably only supporting Alex' descriptors. - Provide a userspace interface to pinctrl with something like /dev/pinctrlN with an ioctl() interface, solving also Roland Stigge's issue with driving many pins at the same time in a smooth way. Sounds like a plan? I'd like to avoid the either-or-approach where you have to use pinctrl only or only gpiolib, so a compatibility layer kindof. I'm prepping a talk at ELC so will try to jot down something more substantial. Yours, Linus Walleij -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arch" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html