On Tuesday 18 January 2011 21:54:59 Lars-Peter Clausen wrote: > > > > Right, but the header file also serves as a template for new architectures > > that cannot directly use it. I would prefer not to give a possibly bad example > > here, especially when it's in a rarely used function. > > Maybe I'm missing something here, but if I have a big-endian architecture isn't > ioread{16,32}be what I should use to access iomapped memory? Most I/O devices are little-endian, even for big-endian machines, and should use readl or ioread. If you have big-endian SoC components, ioread*be is often the right choice, but that case is rather rare. Some architectures also define their own I/O accessors for SoC components, since those often have other requirements from PCI MMIO areas. E.g. on powerpc, the in_be32/in_le32 accessor only works on directly mapped MMIO regions and performs no PCI error handling. On ARM, the readl_relaxed() accessor does not synchronize with external buses. On x86, readl is different from ioread32 in that it cannot work on addresses returned from ioport_map. I believe some SoCs are even configurable to have little- or big-endian I/O, so the accessor does not do byte swapping. It might be a good idea to make all this a little more structured, but it's also fine if you set your own rules for a new architecture when it has non-PCI devices that work in other ways. > >>> The right solution is probably to use swab16/swab32 for the > >>> big-endian functions. This also corrects the iowrite functions > >>> which really should be using cpu_to_be32 instead of be32_to_cpu > >>> (although they are always defined to be the same afaict. > >> > >> This would first cause a conversion to little-endian, which is a swap() in the > >> generic case and then you would call swap() again on the result. Which is basically a > >> noop, but I'm not sure if compilers will detect this. > > > > The overhead of the swab() is certainly dwarfed by the long time spent in > > readl(). > > Well at least the code size overhead is fundamental: Fair enough. You could of course make it out of line, but then you would no longer be able to use the generic implementation of these functions. > with #define ioread32be(addr) swap32(ioread32(addr)): > > 4001a694 <get_cycles>: > addi sp,sp,-16 > sw (sp+16),r11 > sw (sp+12),r12 > sw (sp+8),r13 > sw (sp+4),ra > mvhi r2,0x4021 > ori r2,r2,0xa100 > lw r1,(r2+0) > mvi r2,24 > mvhi r13,0xff > lw r12,(r1+0) > mv r1,r12 > calli 400f6f9c <__lshrsi3> > mv r11,r1 > mvi r2,24 > mv r1,r12 > calli 400f6f6c <__ashlsi3> > or r11,r11,r1 > mvi r2,8 > andi r1,r12,0xff00 > ... That is indeed huge. Byte swapping is a relatively common operation in the kernel, so independent of the solution to this particular problem, it will be a good idea to see if you can do a better implementation than this, using inline assembly or gcc internal helpers. > So I as someone who implements arch support has two options either redefine > ioread32be in the arch io header, or use __raw_readl everywhere to access iomap memory. __raw_readl is not a good thing to use, because of a number of reasons. Please choose one of these four: * change the common ioread*/iowrite* functions to all be based on the __raw_* I/O versions, not just the big-endian ones. The space overhead you quoted is enough of a justification for that. * change asm-generic/io.h so you can override the definitions with architecture specific implementations. * use GENERIC_IOMAP. * define your own bus-specific accessors that are big-endian and based on __raw_readl/__raw_writel. Arnd -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arch" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html