Re: SMP barriers semantics

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On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 00:55 +0000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 10:52:58AM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > The main question - are the Linux SMP barriers supposed to have an
> > effect outside of cacheable memory accesses (i.e. ordering wrt I/O
> > accesses)?
> 
> The SMP barriers are only required to order cacheable accesses.  The
> plain (non-SMP) barriers (mb, wmb, rmb) are required to order both
> cacheable and non-cacheable accesses.

Thanks for clarification.

> > My understanding from other comments in the kernel source is that the
> > SMP barriers are only meant or cacheable memory but there are drivers
> > that do something like below (e.g. drivers/net/r8169.c):
> >
> >               /* We need for force the visibility of tp->intr_mask
> >                * for other CPUs, as we can loose an MSI interrupt
> >                * and potentially wait for a retransmit timeout if we don't.
> >                * The posted write to IntrMask is safe, as it will
> >                * eventually make it to the chip and we won't loose anything
> >                * until it does.
> >                */
> >               tp->intr_mask = 0xffff;
> >               smp_wmb();
> >               RTL_W16(IntrMask, tp->intr_event);
> >
> > Is this supposed to work given the SMP barriers semantics?
> 
> Well, if the smp_wmb() is supposed to make the assignment to
> tp->intr_mask globally visible before any effects of the RTL_W16(),
> then it's buggy.  But from the comments it appears that the smp_wmb()
> might be intended to order the store to tp->intr_mask with respect to
> following cacheable stores, rather than with respect to the RTL_W16(),
> which would be OK.  I can't say without having a much closer look at
> what that driver is actually doing.

I cc'ed the r8169.c maintainer.

But from the architectural support perspective, we don't need to support
more than a lightweight barrier in this case.

Thanks.

-- 
Catalin

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