On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 01:34:57PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30 2008, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:59:36AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:26:21AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: > > > > This adds kernel/smp.c which contains helpers for IPI function calls. In > > > > addition to supporting the existing smp_call_function() in a more efficient > > > > manner, it also adds a more scalable variant called smp_call_function_single() > > > > for calling a given function on a single CPU only. > > > > > > > > The core of this is based on the x86-64 patch from Nick Piggin, lots of > > > > changes since then. "Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@xxxxxx> has > > > > contributed lots of fixes and suggestions as well. > > > > > > Looks much better, but there still appears to be a potential deadlock > > > with a CPU spinning waiting (indirectly) for a grace period to complete. > > > Such spinning can prevent the grace period from ever completing. > > > > > > See "!!!". > > > > One additional question... Why not handle memory allocation failure > > by pretending that the caller to smp_call_function() had specified > > "wait"? The callee is in irq context, so cannot block, right? > > (BTW a lot of thanks for your comments, I've read and understood most of > it, I'll reply in due time - perhaps not until next week, I'll be gone > from this afternoon and until monday). > > We cannot always fallback to wait, unfortunately. If irqs are disabled, > you could deadlock between two CPUs each waiting for each others IPI > ack. Good point!!! > So the good question is how to handle the problem. The easiest would be > to return ENOMEM and get rid of the fallback, but the fallback deadlocks > are so far mostly in the theoretical realm since it PROBABLY would not > occur in practice. But still no good enough, so I'm still toying with > ideas on how to make it 100% bullet proof. Here are some (probably totally broken) ideas: 1. Global lock so that only one smp_call_function() in the system proceeds. Additional calls would be spinning with irqs -enabled- on the lock, avoiding deadlock. Kind of defeats the purpose of your list, though... 2. Maintain a global mask of current targets of smp_call_function() CPUs. A given CPU may proceed if it is not a current target and if none of its target CPUs are already in the mask. This mask would be manipulated under a global lock. 3. As in #2 above, but use per-CPU counters. This allows the current CPU to proceed if it is not a target, but also allows concurrent smp_call_function()s to proceed even if their lists of target CPUs overlap. 4. #2 or #3, but where CPUs can proceed freely if their allocation succeeded. 5. If a given CPU is waiting for other CPUs to respond, it polls its own list (with irqs disabled), thus breaking the deadlock. This means that you cannot call smp_call_function() while holding a lock that might be acquired by the called function, but that is not a new prohibition -- the only safe way to hold such a lock is with irqs disabled, and you are not allowed to call the smp_call_function() with irqs disabled in the first place (right?). #5 might actually work... Thanx, Paul -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arch" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html