On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 11:33:55AM -0700, Andrei Vagin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:29:55AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 09:16:43AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:11 AM Adrian Reber <areber@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > With Arnd's idea of only using nanoseconds, timens_offset would then > > > > contain something like this: > > > > > > > > struct timens_offset { > > > > __aligned_s64 monotonic_offset_ns; > > > > __aligned_s64 boottime_offset_ns; > > > > }; > > > > > > > > I kind of prefer adding boottime and monotonic directly to struct clone_args > > > > > > > > __aligned_u64 tls; > > > > __aligned_u64 set_tid; > > > > __aligned_u64 set_tid_size; > > > > + __aligned_s64 monotonic_offset_ns; > > > > + __aligned_s64 boottime_offset_ns; > > > > }; > > > > > > I would also prefer the second approach using two 64-bit integers > > > instead of a pointer, as it keeps the interface simpler to implement > > > and simpler to interpret by other tools. > > > > Why I don't like has two reasons. There's the scenario where we have > > added new extensions after the new boottime member and then we introduce > > another offset. Then you'd be looking at: > > > > __aligned_u64 tls; > > __aligned_u64 set_tid; > > __aligned_u64 set_tid_size; > > + __aligned_s64 monotonic_offset_ns; > > + __aligned_s64 boottime_offset_ns; > > __aligned_s64 something_1 > > __aligned_s64 anything_2 > > + __aligned_s64 sometime_offset_ns > > > > which bothers me just by looking at it. That's in addition to adding two > > new members to the struct when most people will never set CLONE_NEWTIME. > > We'll also likely have more features in the future that will want to > > pass down more info than we want to directly expose in struct > > clone_args, e.g. for a long time I have been thinking about adding a > > struct for CLONE_NEWUSER that allows you to specify the id mappings you > > want the new user namespace to get. We surely don't want to force all > > new info into the uppermost struct. So I'm not convinced we should here. > > I think here we can start thinking about a netlink-like interface. I think netlink is just not a great model for an API and I would not want us to go down that route. I kept thinking about this for a bit and I think that we will end up growing more namespace-related functionality. So one thing that came to my mind is the following layout: struct { struct { __s64 monotonic; __s64 boot; } time; } namespaces; struct _clone_args { __aligned_u64 flags; __aligned_u64 pidfd; __aligned_u64 child_tid; __aligned_u64 parent_tid; __aligned_u64 exit_signal; __aligned_u64 stack; __aligned_u64 stack_size; __aligned_u64 tls; __aligned_u64 set_tid; __aligned_u64 set_tid_size; __aligned_u64 namespaces; __aligned_u64 namespaces_size; }; Then when we end up adding id mapping support for CLONE_NEWUSER we can extend this with: struct { struct { __aligned_u64 monotonic; __aligned_u64 boot; } time; struct { /* id mapping members */ } user; } namespaces; Thoughts? Other ideas? Christian