Am Samstag, 16. November 2019, 17:09:09 CET schrieb Andy Lutomirski: Hi Andy, > > On Nov 16, 2019, at 1:40 AM, Stephan Müller <smueller@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > The True Random Number Generator (TRNG) provides a random number > > generator with prediction resistance (SP800-90A terminology) or an NTG.1 > > (AIS 31 terminology). > > ... > > > The secondary DRNGs seed from the TRNG if it is present. In addition, > > the /dev/random device accesses the TRNG. > > > > If the TRNG is disabled, the secondary DRNGs seed from the entropy pool > > and /dev/random behaves like getrandom(2). > > As mentioned before, I don’t like this API. An application that, for some > reason, needs a TRNG, should have an API by which it either gets a TRNG or > an error. Similarly, an application that wants cryptographically secure > random numbers efficiently should have an API that does that. With your > design, /dev/random tries to cater to both use cases, but one of the use > cases fails depending on kernel config. > > I think /dev/random should wait for enough entropy to initialize the system > but should not block after that. A TRNG should have an entirely new API > that is better than /dev/random. I apologize for the misunderstanding. I assumed we would introduce such /dev/ true_random at a later stage. If you agree, I can certainly add /dev/true_random right now that links with the TRNG and make /dev/random behave as discussed, i.e. behave exactly like getrandom(..., 0); As this would introduce a new device file now, is there a special process that I need to follow or do I need to copy? Which major/minor number should I use? Looking into static const struct memdev devlist[] I see [8] = { "random", 0666, &random_fops, 0 }, [9] = { "urandom", 0666, &urandom_fops, 0 }, Shall a true_random be added here with [10]? Ciao Stephan