> On Mar 30, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:12 AM Christian Brauner <christian@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> To clarify, what the Android guys really wanted to be part of the api is >> a way to get race-free access to metadata associated with a given pidfd. >> And the idea was that *if and only if procfs is mounted* you could do: >> >> int pidfd = pidfd_open(1234, 0); >> >> int procfd = open("/proc", O_RDONLY | O_CLOEXEC); >> int procpidfd = ioctl(pidfd, PIDFD_TO_PROCFD, procfd); > > And my claim is that this is three system calls - one of them very > hacky - to just do > > int pidfd = open("/proc/%d", O_PATH); Hi Linus- I want to re-check this because I think Christian’s example was bad. I proposed these ioctls, but that wasn’t the intended use. The real point is: int pidfd = new_improved_clone(...); To be useful, this type of API *must* work without proc mounted. And, later: openat(fd to pidfd’s proc directory, “status”, ...); And we want a non-utterly-crappy way to do this. The ioctl is certainly ugly, but it *works*. Another approach is: pid_t pid = pidfd_get_pid(pidfd); sprintf(buf, “/proc/%d”, pid); int procfd = open(buf, O_PATH); if (pidfd_get_pid(pidfd) != pid) { we lose; } But this is clunky. Do you think the clunky version is okay, or do you have a suggestion for making it better? —Andy