On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 08:02:23PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote: > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:27 PM Sean Christopherson > <sean.j.christopherson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 10:48:38AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > This whole mechanism seems very complicated, and it's not clear > > > exactly what behavior user code wants. > > > > No argument there. That's why I like the approach of dumping the > > exception to userspace without trying to do anything intelligent in > > the kernel. Userspace can then do whatever it wants AND we don't > > have to worry about mucking with stacks. > > > > One of the hiccups with the VDSO approach is that the enclave may > > want to use the untrusted stack, i.e. the stack that has the VDSO's > > stack frame. For example, Intel's SDK uses the untrusted stack to > > pass parameters for EEXIT, which means an AEX might occur with what > > is effectively a bad stack from the VDSO's perspective. > > What exactly does "uses the untrusted stack to pass parameters for > EEXIT" mean? I guess you're saying that the enclave is writing to > RSP+[0...some_positive_offset], and the written data needs to be > visible to the code outside the enclave afterwards? As is, they actually do it the other way around, i.e. negative offsets relative to the untrusted %RSP. Going into the enclave there is no reserved space on the stack. The SDK uses EEXIT like a function call, i.e. pushing parameters on the stack and making an call outside of the enclave, hence the name out-call. This allows the SDK to handle any reasonable out-call without a priori knowledge of the application's maximum out-call "size". Rough outline of what happens in a non-faulting case. 1: Userspace executes EENTER -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EENTER 2: Enclave does EEXIT to invoke out-call function -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EENTER | out-call func ID | | param1 | | ... | | paramN | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EEXIT 3: Userspace re-EENTERs enclave after handling EEXIT request -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at original EENTER | out-call func ID | | param1 | | ... | | paramN | -------------------- <-- %RSP at post-EEXIT EENTER 4: Enclave cleans up the stack -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP back at original EENTER In the faulting case, an AEX can occur while the enclave is pushing parameters onto the stack for EEXIT. 1: Userspace executes EENTER -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EENTER 2: AEX occurs during enclave prep for EEXIT -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EENTER | out-call func ID | | param1 | | ... | -------------------- <-- %RSP at AEX 3: Userspace re-EENTERs enclave to invoke enclave fault handler -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at original EENTER | out-call func ID | | param1 | | ... | -------------------- <-- %RSP at AEX | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EENTER to fault handler 4: Enclave handles the fault, EEXITs back to userspace -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at original EENTER | out-call func ID | | param1 | | ... | -------------------- <-- %RSP at AEX | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EEXIT from fault handler 5: Userspace pops its stack and ERESUMEs back to the enclave -------------------- | userspace stack | -------------------- <-- %RSP at original EENTER | out-call func ID | | param1 | | ... | -------------------- <-- %RSP at ERESUME 6: Enclave finishes its EEXIT to invoke out-call function -------------------- | userspace stuff | -------------------- <-- %RSP at original EENTER | out-call func ID | | param1 | | ... | | paramN | -------------------- <-- %RSP at EEXIT > In other words, the vDSO helper would have to not touch the stack > pointer (only using the 128-byte redzone to store spilled data, at > least across the enclave entry), and return by decrementing the stack > pointer by 8 immediately before returning (storing the return pointer > in the redzone)? > > So you'd call the vDSO helper with a normal "call > vdso_helper_address", then the vDSO helper does "add rsp, 8", then the > vDSO helper does its magic, and then it returns with "sub rsp, 8" and > "ret"? That way you don't touch anything on the high-address side of > RSP while still avoiding running into CET problems. (I'm assuming that > you can use CET in a process that is hosting SGX enclaves?)