On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The generic distros have been shipping this policy for the past 5 years. .. so apparently it doesn't actually break things? Why not enable it by default then? And if "turn off secure boot" really is the accepted - and actuially used - workaround for the breakage, then WHY THE HELL DIDN'T YOU START OFF BY EXPLAINING THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN PEOPLE ASKED WHY THE TIE-IN EXISTED? Sorry for shouting, but really. We have a thread of just *how* many email messages that asked for the explanation for this? All we got was incomprehensible and illogical crap explanations. If there actually was a good explanation for the tie-in, it should have been front-and-center and explained as such. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html