On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Secure Boot ensures that the firmware will only load signed bootloaders. If > a signed bootloader loads a kernel that's effectively an unsigned > bootloader, there's no point in using Secure Boot Bullshit. I may want to know that I'm running *my* kernel, but once that is the case, I trust it. In fact, I tend to trust it more than some random vendor key. You should too. Your whole argument is FUNDAMENTALLY garbage. It's the Disney kind of garbage. It was garbage back then, and it's garbage now. It is also garbage for a simple technical reason: secure boot can be hard to turn off. Sometimes "turn off" means "you just have to add your own keys". Yes, on x86 hardware at least at some point MS actually had the rule that it has to be something you can turn off. That rule is apparently not true on ARM, though. Seriously. You sound like you're parroting some party line, not like you are answering the actual question. So again: why do you conflate the two issues? If you want lockdown, fine, enable it. But what the F*CK does that have to do with whether you had secure boot or not? Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html