Re: [REVIEW][PATCH 11/11] ipc/sem: Fix semctl(..., GETPID, ...) between pid namespaces

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

Today the last process to update a semaphore is remembered and
reported in the pid namespace of that process.  If there are processes
in any other pid namespace querying that process id with GETPID the
result will be unusable nonsense as it does not make any
sense in your own pid namespace.

Yeah that sounds pretty wrong.


Due to ipc_update_pid I don't think you will be able to get System V
ipc semaphores into a troublesome cache line ping-pong.  Using struct
pids from separate process are not a problem because they do not share
a cache line.  Using struct pid from different threads of the same
process are unlikely to be a problem as the reference count update
can be avoided.

Further linux futexes are a much better tool for the job of mutual
exclusion between processes than System V semaphores.  So I expect
programs that  are performance limited by their interprocess mutual
exclusion primitive will be using futexes.

You would be wrong. There are plenty of real workloads out there
that do not use futexes and are care about performance; in the end
futexes are only good for the uncontended cases, it can also
destroy numa boxes if you consider the global hash table. Experience
as shown me that sysvipc sems are quite still used.


So while it is possible that enhancing the storage of the last
rocess of a System V semaphore from an integer to a struct pid
will cause a performance regression because of the effect
of frequently updating the pid reference count.  I don't expect
that to happen in practice.

How's that? Now thanks to ipc_update_pid() for each semop the user
passes, perform_atomic_semop() will do two atomic updates for the
cases where there are multiple processes updating the sem. This is
not uncommon.

Could you please provide some numbers.

Thanks,
Davidlohr
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