Hi Adhemerval
On 7 November 2017 at 22:14, Adhemerval Zanella
<adhemerval.zanella@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> On 07/11/2017 18:35, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was recently testing some code I'd written a while back that makes
>> use of seccomp filters to control which system calls a process can
>> make, and I got a surpise when someone showed the code no longer
>> worked in on a system that had glibc 2.26.
>>
>> The behavior change resulted from Adhemerval's glibc commit
>>
>> commit b41152d716ee9c5ba34495a54e64ea2b732139b5
>> Author: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Fri Nov 11 15:00:03 2016 -0200
>>
>> Consolidate Linux open implementation
>> [...]
>> 3. Use __NR_openat as default syscall for open{64}.
>>
>> The commit in question changed the glibc open() wrapper to swtcch from
>> use the kernel's open() system call to using the kernel's openat()
>> system call.
>>
>> This change broke my code that was doing seccomp filtering for the
>> open() system call number (__NR_open). The breakage in question is not
>> serious, since this was really just demonstration code. However, I
>> want to raise awareness that these sorts of changes have the potential
>> to possibly cause breakages for some code using seccomp, and note that
>> I think such changes should not be made lightly or gratuitously. (In
>> the above commit, it's not clear why the switch was made to using
>> openat(): there's no mention of the reasoning in the commit message,
>> nor is there anything that is obvious from reading through the code
>> change itself.)
>
> Your code would 'break' if you run with on a new architecture that does
> not implement __NR_open, which it is the default for new architecture
> on Linux.
(Is it the default for new architectures? I was unaware of that.)
> In fact I hardly consider this is a 'break' since the user API we
> export does not have any constraint which underlying syscall we use.
> For instance, a user can seccomp gettimeofday syscall on a system
> without vDSO just to found out it is 'broken' on a vDSO kernel.
>
> I think we should not constraint for this specific usercase; if one
> is doing syscall filtering it is expected system level knowledge to
> handle all possible syscalls related. For instance, I would expect
> that if the idea is to filtering open() libc implementation the
> program should also filter __NR_openat and __NR_openat2 since it
> is semantically possible to implement open() with __NR_openat2 if
> the syscall is available.
Perhaps my use of the word 'break' was a bit too loaded. (And if my
mail came across as somehow critical of your patch, that was not my
intention, and if you feel it as such, I do apologize for my poor
wording.)
My "broken" code was just some demo code, and I got surprised by the
behavior change. And I agree with pretty much everything you say,
especially the point about needing good system level knowledge when
you are doing system call filtering (and of course a real-world
application that cared about filtering open() should also be filtering
for openat()). This is one of the reasons that Linux man-pages have
steadily been acquiring subsections called "C library/kernel
differences". But I did just want to raise some awareness about that
these sorts of changes could be a possible issue in some cases.
(By the way, unless I am missing something, there is no __NR_openat2?)
> Now for the reasoning of using __NR_openat is since we have support
> for it on all architecture it meant less logic to handle possible
> architecture differences.
Fair enough. Maybe this could be stated more explicitly in the commit
message though?
With best regards,
Michael
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