On 12/13/2016 9:24 AM, John Stultz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Casey Schaufler <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 12/13/2016 8:49 AM, John Stultz wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Casey Schaufler <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On 12/13/2016 1:47 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: >>>>> How about CAP_CGROUP_CONTROL or some such, with the idea that this >>>>> might be a capability that allows the holder to step outside usual >>>>> cgroup rules? At the moment, that capability would allow only one such >>>>> step, but maybe there would be others in the future. >>>> I agree, but want to put it more strongly. The granularity of >>>> capabilities can never be fine enough for some people, and this >>>> is an example of a case where you're going a bit too far. If the >>>> use case is Android as you say, you don't need this. As my friends >>>> on the far side of the aisle would say, "just write SELinux policy" >>>> to correctly control access as required. >>> So.. The trouble is that while selinux is good for restricting >>> permissions, the in-kernel permission checks here are already too >>> restrictive. >> Why did the original authors of cgroups make it that restrictive? >> If there isn't a good reason, loosen it up. If there is a good >> reason, then pay heed to it. > That's what this patch is proposing. And I agree with Michael that the > newly proposed cap was a bit to narrowly focused on my immediate use > case, and broadening it to CGROUP_CONTROL is smart. Then that > capability could be further restricted w/ selinux policy, as you > suggest. Adding a new capability is unnecessary. The current use of CAP_SYS_NICE, while arguably obscure, provides as much "security" as a new capability does. While cgroups are a wonderful thing, they don't need a separate capability. > > thanks > -john > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html