----- On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:19 AM, Michael Ellerman mpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > On Mon, 2015-09-07 at 16:01 +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: >> ----- On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Michael Ellerman mpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> > On Thu, 2015-09-03 at 15:47 +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: >> >> >> >> My personal experience is that make headers_install does not necessarily play >> >> well with the distribution header file hierarchy, which requires some tweaks >> >> to be done by the users (e.g. asm vs x86_64-linux-gnu). >> > >> > OK, I've never had issues. What exactly are you doing and how is it going wrong? >> >> After some investigation, I noticed the following: >> >> 1) I first ran make headers_install as root, which installed the >> headers within my build tree. I later tried it again as user, and >> it failed due to permission issues (my bad). This is where I tried >> to install it into my system rather than under my build directory, >> which caused a mess. > > Yeah OK that's a good point about root. > > I tend to build as a regular user and then copy the installed tests to another > machine where I run them as root. > >> 2) Since make kselftest should be run as root (according to make >> help), > > Well some of the tests only work when run as root. IMHO we should support > running as many tests as possible as non-root, but some of them obviously > require root. > > So you can run them as non-root, but to get maximum coverage you need to run > them as root. Works for me. We do something similar in lttng-tools. We use "tap" (https://testanything.org/) for tests, and explicitly skip all tests that require root if we detect that we don't run as root. I notice that many selftests format their own output. The nice part about standardizing on something like tap is that it simplifies automated parsing of the test output. > >> this means that all the output files generated by the build >> are owned by root. It leads to permissions issues when trying to >> rebuild the tests as user afterward. Perhaps we could introduce a >> distinction between make kselftest_build and make kselftest_run ? >> The former could be executed as user, and the latter as root. > > Right. Personally I don't use the kselftest target at all, I just cd down to > tools/testing/selftests and run make there. > > If it was up to me the kselftest target would go away, because it's only caused > us trouble so far. > > But given it's there we should try to make it work as well as possible. So yeah > splitting it into build and run would make sense, that way you could do: > > $ make headers_install > $ make kselftest_build > $ sudo make kselftest_run > > And that would hopefully do the right thing. > > Would that improve the workflow for you? Yes. Although I'm wondering why the kernel should be different from many other projects out there. Why not simply: - Add a kselftest_build dependency to the kernel build, so tests are always built, and warnings that arise from modifying anything related to installed headers will trigger for everyone, - Add a dependency on headers_install into the obj tree to kselftest_build, - Optionally add a "make check" alias to "make kselftest". This way, running the tests becomes as simple as: make sudo make check Documentation is key here: make sure to update Documentation/kselftest.txt to document where the self-tests are looking for their system headers (not system, but within usr/ in the obj tree). This is the missing documentation bit that confused me the most. > >> > So that seems to be working for me. Are you doing some different work flow, or >> > am I just missing something? >> >> When doing make headers_install, it indeed installs >> membarrier.h where we expect it under the build output >> dir: >> >> $ ls usr/include/linux/membarrier.h >> usr/include/linux/membarrier.h >> >> However, if I issue >> >> $ make -C tools/testing/selftests TARGETS=membarrier >> make: Entering directory `/home/efficios/git/linux-next/tools/testing/selftests' >> for TARGET in membarrier; do \ >> make -C $TARGET; \ >> done; >> make[1]: Entering directory >> `/home/efficios/git/linux-next/tools/testing/selftests/membarrier' >> gcc membarrier_test.c -o membarrier_test >> membarrier_test.c:2:30: fatal error: linux/membarrier.h: No such file or >> directory >> #include <linux/membarrier.h> >> >> This is after applying the modifications you requested >> (see patch attached). Perhaps I did something wrong ? > > Yeah sorry, you still need the -I line: > > CFLAGS += -I../../../../usr/include/ > > > We /should/ add that to lib.mk so it's inherited by everyone, but we haven't > yet. Yep, this would be a good start. > > So I think if you put that back the instructions I gave you will work? Yes, it does, thanks! Mathieu > > cheers -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html