On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 11:28:19PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:53:47PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 01:33:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > The basic class ID macros in pci_ids.h are pretty useful for userspace > > > using the pci sysfs interface, and they aren't fundamentally different > > > from the constants in pci_regs.h - both are defined in the > > > pci spec. > > > > > > At the moment userspace is forced to duplicate these macros > > > (e.g. QEMU does this, so do seabios, gpxe, and others), it is better to > > > expose them in /usr/include/linux/pci_ids.h so everyone can just include > > > this header. > > > > I agree that it would be nice for applications to get these definitions > > from a single place, but I'm not sure that include/uapi/linux/pci_ids.h > > needs to be that place. > > > > These constants are just copies of what's in the spec, and I don't think > > you're suggesting that the constants are necessary to use a kernel API. > > > > I know the kernel does provide access to values via sysfs "class" files, > > but the kernel is just passing the values through from the hardware. > > That's analogous to reading the class with setpci, and I don't think it > > leads to a requirement that the kernel export all the information about how > > to interpret the class values. > > > > I haven't looked at libpci or libudev, but it sounds like you think those > > are not good solutions. Is that because they don't currently have this > > information? People don't want to add dependencies on them? > > > > Bjorn > > People don't want to add dependencies on them. So you want us to create yet-a-third-location for these values? Both libpci and libudev are on all systems. And it's not a run-time dependancy you are talking about here, but a build-time one, which is quite different. Having a build-time dependancy on packages that ship with all Linux distributions seems acceptable to me. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html