David Drysdale <drysdale@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Eric W. Biederman > <ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:48 AM, David Drysdale <drysdale@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Eric W. Biederman >>>> <ebiederm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> [Added Eric Biederman, since I think your tree might be a reasonable >>>>>> route forward for these patches.] >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:40 AM, David Drysdale <drysdale@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> Resending, adding cc:linux-api. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, it may help to add a little more background -- this patch is >>>>>>> needed as a (small) part of implementing Capsicum in the Linux kernel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Capsicum is a security framework that has been present in FreeBSD since >>>>>>> version 9.0 (Jan 2012), and is based on concepts from object-capability >>>>>>> security [1]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the features of Capsicum is capability mode, which locks down >>>>>>> access to global namespaces such as the filesystem hierarchy. In >>>>>>> capability mode, /proc is thus inaccessible and so fexecve(3) doesn't >>>>>>> work -- hence the need for a kernel-space >>>>>> >>>>>> I just found myself wanting this syscall for another reason: injecting >>>>>> programs into sandboxes or otherwise heavily locked-down namespaces. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, I want to be able to reliably do something like nsenter >>>>>> --namespace-flags-here toybox sh. Toybox's shell is unusual in that >>>>>> it is more or less fully functional, so this should Just Work (tm), >>>>>> except that the toybox binary might not exist in the namespace being >>>>>> entered. If execveat were available, I could rig nsenter or a similar >>>>>> tool to open it with O_CLOEXEC, enter the namespace, and then call >>>>>> execveat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any reason that these patches can't be merged more or less as >>>>>> is for 3.19? >>>>> >>>>> Yes. There is a silliness in how it implements fexecve. The fexecve >>>>> case should be use the empty string "" not a NULL pointer to indication >>>>> that. That change will then harmonize execveat with the other ...at >>>>> system calls and simplify the code and remove a special case. I believe >>>>> using the empty string "" requires implementing the AT_EMPTY_PATH flag. >>>> >>>> Good point -- I'll shift to "" + AT_EMPTY_PATH. >>> >>> Pending a better idea, I would also see if the patches can be changed >>> to return an error if d_path ends up with an "(unreachable)" thing >>> rather than failing inexplicably later on. >> >> For my reference we are talking about >> >>> @@ -1489,7 +1524,21 @@ static int do_execve_common(struct filename *filename, >>> sched_exec(); >>> >>> bprm->file = file; >>> - bprm->filename = bprm->interp = filename->name; >>> + if (filename && fd == AT_FDCWD) { >>> + bprm->filename = filename->name; >>> + } else { >>> + pathbuf = kmalloc(PATH_MAX, GFP_TEMPORARY); >>> + if (!pathbuf) { >>> + retval = -ENOMEM; >>> + goto out_unmark; >>> + } >>> + bprm->filename = d_path(&file->f_path, pathbuf, PATH_MAX); >>> + if (IS_ERR(bprm->filename)) { >>> + retval = PTR_ERR(bprm->filename); >>> + goto out_unmark; >>> + } >>> + } >>> + bprm->interp = bprm->filename; >>> >>> retval = bprm_mm_init(bprm); >>> if (retval) >> >> The interesting case for fexecve is when we either don't know what files >> are present or we don't want to depend on which files are present. >> >> As Al pointed out d_path really isn't the right solution. It fails when >> printing /proc/self/fd/${fd}/${filename->name} would work, and the >> "(deleted)" or "(unreachable)" strings are wrong. >> >> The test for today's cases should be: >> if ((filename->name[0] == '/') || fd == AT_FDCWD) { >> bprm->filename = filename->name; >> } >> >> To handle the case where the file descriptor is relevant. > (s/relevant/irrelevant) > > Yep, good spot. > >> For the case where the file descriptor is relevant let me suggest >> setting bprm->filename and bprm->interp to: >> >> /dev/fd/${fd}/${filename->name} > > I'll send out an updated patchset with this approach, but I have a slight > reservation. Given that /dev/fd is a symlink to /proc/self/fd, this approach > means that script invocations will always fail on a /proc-less system, > where the previous iteration might have worked. > > (As it happens, this isn't a restriction that affects the things I'm > working on, as Capsicum wouldn't allow script invocation anyway. > However, scenarios without /proc were nominally one of the motivating > factors for execveat in the first place...) Which is where's Al Viro's and Peter Anvin's conversation about a minimal filesystem that can serve the needs of /proc/self/fd comes in. There are uses for execveat with static executables, so I think execveat is justified. But having a dupfs that we could potentially mount on /dev/fd would be interesting. As it is much less of a security concern than /proc with all of the interfaces it provides. >> It is more a description of what we have done but as a magic string it >> is descriptive. Documetation/devices.txt documents that /dev/fd/ should >> exist, making it an unambiguous path. Further these days the kernel >> sets the device naming policy in dev, so I think we are strongly safe in >> using that path in any event. >> >> I think execveat is interesting in the kernel because the motivating >> cases are the cases where anything except a static executable is >> uninteresting. > > FYI, there is potential in the future for something other than static > executables -- the FreeBSD Capsicum implementation includes changes > to the dynamic linker to get its search path as a list of pre-opened dfds > (in LD_LIBRARY_PATH_FDS) rather than paths. Which still leaves open the question how do you find the dynamic linker. Is that also a pre-opened dfd? Using /dev/fd/$N is also the kind of thing that a shell or a script interpret could special case instead relying on a filesystem node to exist. 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