I think its pointless. Yes there may have been a case years ago to nul terminate but thats now how 4BSD defined the API so that's how the world looks. It helps nobody on the app side because they'll be defensively coding for the existing API for another ten years for enterprise distros anyway. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html