Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] add metadata_incore ioctl in vfs

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On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 12:41 +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 08:10:14PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:21:49 +0800 Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > > It seems to return a single offset/length tuple which refers to the
> > > > btrfs metadata "file", with the intent that this tuple later be fed
> > > > into a btrfs-specific readahead ioctl.
> > > > 
> > > > I can see how this might be used with say fatfs or ext3 where all
> > > > metadata resides within the blockdev address_space.  But how is a
> > > > filesytem which keeps its metadata in multiple address_spaces supposed
> > > > to use this interface?
> > > Oh, this looks like a big problem, thanks for letting me know such
> > > filesystems. is it possible specific filesystem mapping multiple
> > > address_space ranges to a virtual big ranges? the new ioctls handle the
> > > mapping.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you mean by that.
> > 
> > ext2, minix and probably others create an address_space for each
> > directory.  Heaven knows what xfs does (for example).
> 
> In 2.6.39 it won't even use address spaces for metadata caching.
> 
> Besides, XFS already has pretty sophisticated metadata readahead
> built in - it's one of the reasons why the XFS directory code scales
> so well on cold cache lookups of arge directories - so I don't see
> much need for such an interface for XFS.
> 
> Perhaps btrfs would be better served by implementing speculative
> metadata readahead in the places where it makes sense (e.g. readdir)
> bcause it will improve cold-cache performance on a much wider range
> of workloads than at just boot-time....
I don't know about xfs. A sophisticated metadata readahead might make
metadata async, but I thought it's impossible it can removes the disk
seek. Since metadata and data usually lives in different disk block
ranges, doing data readahead will unavoidable read metadata and cause
disk seek between reading data and metadata.

Thanks,
Shaohua

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