Re: [PATCH v2 0/1] mm: introduce MADV_DEMOTE/MADV_PROMOTE

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On 01.08.24 09:56, BiscuitOS Broiler wrote:
Sure, here's the Scalable Tiered Memory Control (STMC)

**Background**

In the era when artificial intelligence, big data analytics, and
machine learning have become mainstream research topics and
application scenarios, the demand for high-capacity and high-
bandwidth memory in computers has become increasingly important.
The emergence of CXL (Compute Express Link) provides the
possibility of high-capacity memory. Although CXL TYPE3 devices
can provide large memory capacities, their access speed is lower
than traditional DRAM due to hardware architecture limitations.

To enjoy the large capacity brought by CXL memory while minimizing
the impact of high latency, Linux has introduced the Tiered Memory
architecture. In the Tiered Memory architecture, CXL memory is
treated as an independent, slower NUMA NODE, while DRAM is
considered as a relatively faster NUMA NODE. Applications allocate
memory from the local node, and Tiered Memory, leveraging memory
reclamation and NUMA Balancing mechanisms, can transparently demote
physical pages not recently accessed by user processes to the slower
CXL NUMA NODE. However, when user processes re-access the demoted
memory, the Tiered Memory mechanism will, based on certain logic,
decide whether to promote the demoted physical pages back to the
fast NUMA NODE. If the promotion is successful, the memory accessed
by the user process will reside in DRAM; otherwise, it will reside in
the CXL NODE. Through the Tiered Memory mechanism, Linux balances
betweenlarge memory capacity and latency, striving to maintain an
equilibrium for applications.

**Problem**
Although Tiered Memory strives to balance between large capacity and
latency, specific scenarios can lead to the following issues:

   1. In scenarios requiring massive computations, if data is heavily
      stored in CXL slow memory and Tiered Memory cannot promptly
      promote this memory to fast DRAM, it will significantly impact
      program performance.
   2. Similar to the scenario described in point 1, if Tiered Memory
      decides to promote these physical pages to fast DRAM NODE, but
      due to limitations in the DRAM NODE promote ratio, these physical
      pages cannot be promoted. Consequently, the program will keep
      running in slow memory.
   3. After an application finishes computing on a large block of fast
      memory, it may not immediately re-access it. Hence, this memory
      can only wait for the memory reclamation mechanism to demote it.
   4. Similar to the scenario described in point 3, if the demotion
      speed is slow, these cold pages will occupy the promotion
      resources, preventing some eligible slow pages from being
      immediately promoted, severely affecting application efficiency.

**Solution**
We propose the **Scalable Tiered Memory Control (STMC)** mechanism,
which delegates the authority of promoting and demoting memory to the
application. The principle is simple, as follows:

   1. When an application is preparing for computation, it can promote
      the memory it needs to use or ensure the memory resides on a fast
      NODE.
   2. When an application will not use the memory shortly, it can
      immediately demote the memory to slow memory, freeing up valuable
      promotion resources.

STMC mechanism is implemented through the madvise system call, providing
two new advice options: MADV_DEMOTE and MADV_PROMOTE. MADV_DEMOTE
advises demote the physical memory to the node where slow memory
resides; this advice only fails if there is no free physical memory on
the slow memory node. MADV_PROMOTE advises retaining the physical memory
in the fast memory; this advice only fails if there are no promotion
slots available on the fast memory node. Benefits brought by STMC
include:

   1. The STMC mechanism is a variant of on-demand memory management
      designed to let applications enjoy fast memory as much as possible,
      while actively demoting to slow memory when not in use, thus
      freeing up promotion slots for the NODE and allowing it to run in
      an optimized Tiered Memory environment.
   2. The STMC mechanism better balances large capacity and latency.

**Shortcomings of STMC**
The STMC mechanism requires the caller to manage memory demotion and
promotion. If the memory is not promptly demoting after an promotion,
it may cause issues similar to memory leaks
Ehm, that sounds scary. Can you elaborate what's happening here and why it is "similar to memory leaks"?


Can you also point out why migrate_pages() is not suitable? I would assume demote/promote is in essence simply migrating memory between nodes.

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Cheers,

David / dhildenb





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