On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 6:30 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 3/5/24 22:36, Mina Almasry wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 1:55 PM David Wei <dw@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> On 2024-03-04 18:01, Mina Almasry wrote: > >>> +struct memory_provider_ops { > >>> + int (*init)(struct page_pool *pool); > >>> + void (*destroy)(struct page_pool *pool); > >>> + struct page *(*alloc_pages)(struct page_pool *pool, gfp_t gfp); > >>> + bool (*release_page)(struct page_pool *pool, struct page *page); > >> > >> For ZC Rx we added a scrub() function to memory_provider_ops that is > >> called from page_pool_scrub(). Does TCP devmem not custom behaviour > >> waiting for all netmem_refs to return before destroying the page pool? > >> What happens if e.g. application crashes? > > > > (sorry for the long reply, but he refcounting is pretty complicated to > > explain and I feel like we need to agree on how things currently work) > > > > Yeah, the addition of the page_pool_scrub() function is a bit of a > > head scratcher for me. Here is how the (complicated) refcounting works > > for devmem TCP (assuming the driver is not doing its own recycling > > logic which complicates things further): > > > > 1. When a netmem_ref is allocated by the page_pool (from dmabuf or > > page), the netmem_get_pp_ref_count_ref()==1 and belongs to the page > > pool as long as the netmem is waiting in the pool for driver > > allocation. > > > > 2. When a netmem is allocated by the driver, no refcounting is > > changed, but the ownership of the netmem_get_pp_ref_count_ref() is > > implicitly transferred from the page pool to the driver. i.e. the ref > > now belongs to the driver until an skb is formed. > > > > 3. When the driver forms an skb using skb_rx_add_frag_netmem(), no > > refcounting is changed, but the ownership of the > > netmem_get_pp_ref_count_ref() is transferred from the driver to the > > TCP stack. > > > > 4. When the TCP stack hands the skb to the application, the TCP stack > > obtains an additional refcount, so netmem_get_pp_ref_count_ref()==2, > > and frees the skb using skb_frag_unref(), which drops the > > netmem_get_pp_ref_count_ref()==1. > > > > 5. When the user is done with the skb, the user calls the > > DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt which calls napi_pp_put_netmem() which > > recycles the netmem back to the page pool. This doesn't modify any > > refcounting, but the refcount ownership transfers from the userspace > > back to the page pool, and we're back at step 1. > > > > So all in all netmem can belong either to (a) the page pool, or (b) > > the driver, or (c) the TCP stack, or (d) the application depending on > > where exactly it is in the RX path. > > > > When an application running devmem TCP crashes, the netmem that belong > > to the page pool or driver are not touched, because the page pool is > > not tied to the application in our case really. However, the TCP stack > > notices the devmem socket of the application close, and when it does, > > the TCP stack will: > > > > 1. Free all the skbs in the sockets receive queue. This is not custom > > behavior for devmem TCP, it's just standard for TCP to free all skbs > > waiting to be received by the application. > > 2. The TCP stack will free references that belong to the application. > > Since the application crashed, it will not call the DEVMEM_DONTNEED > > setsockopt, so we need to free those on behalf of the application. > > This is done in this diff: > > > > @@ -2498,6 +2498,15 @@ static void tcp_md5sig_info_free_rcu(struct > > rcu_head *head) > > void tcp_v4_destroy_sock(struct sock *sk) > > { > > struct tcp_sock *tp = tcp_sk(sk); > > + __maybe_unused unsigned long index; > > + __maybe_unused void *netmem; > > + > > +#ifdef CONFIG_PAGE_POOL > > + xa_for_each(&sk->sk_user_frags, index, netmem) > > + WARN_ON_ONCE(!napi_pp_put_page((__force netmem_ref)netmem, false)); > > +#endif > > + > > + xa_destroy(&sk->sk_user_frags); > > > > trace_tcp_destroy_sock(sk); > > > > To be honest, I think it makes sense for the TCP stack to be > > responsible for putting the references that belong to it and the > > application. To me, it does not make much sense for the page pool to > > be responsible for putting the reference that belongs to the TCP stack > > or driver via a page_pool_scrub() function, as those references do not > > belong to the page pool really. I'm not sure why there is a diff > > between our use cases here because I'm not an io_uring expert. Why do > > you need to scrub all the references on page pool destruction? Don't > > these belong to non-page pool components like io_uring stack or TCP > > stack ol otherwise? > > That one is about cleaning buffers that are in b/w 4 and 5, i.e. > owned by the user, which devmem does at sock destruction. io_uring > could get by without scrub, dropping user refs while unregistering > ifq, but then it'd need to wait for all requests to finish so there > is no step 4 in the meantime. Might change, can be useful, but it > was much easier to hook into the pp release loop. > > Another concern is who and when can reset ifq / kill pp outside > of io_uring/devmem. I assume it can happen on a whim, which is > hard to handle gracefully. > If this is about dropping application refs in step 4 & step 5, then from devmem TCP perspective it must be done on socket close & skb freeing AFAIU, and not delayed until page_pool destruction. Think about a stupid or malicious user that does something like: 1. Set up dmabuf binding using netlink api. 2. While (100000): 3. create devmem TCP socket. 4. receive some devmem data on TCP socket. 5. close TCP socket without calling DEVMEM_DONTNEED. 6. clean up dmabuf binding using netlink api. In this case, we need to drop the references in step 5 when the socket is destroyed, so the memory is freed to the page pool and available for the next socket in step 3. We cannot delay the freeing until step 6 when the rx queue is recreated and the page pool is destroyed, otherwise the net_iovs would leak in the loop and eventually the NIC would fail to find available memory. The same bug would be reproducible with io_uring unless you're creating a new page pool for each new io_uring socket equivalent. But even outside of this, I think it's a bit semantically off to ask the page_pool to drop references that belong to the application IMO, because those references are not the page_pool's. > -- > Pavel Begunkov -- Thanks, Mina