Re: Onlining CXL Type2 device coherent memory

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On 02.11.20 17:17, Vikram Sethi wrote:
Hi David,
From: David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx>
On 31.10.20 17:51, Dan Williams wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 3:21 AM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 30.10.20 21:37, Dan Williams wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 4:06 PM Vikram Sethi <vsethi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I wanted to kick off a discussion on how Linux onlining of CXL [1] type 2
device
Coherent memory aka Host managed device memory (HDM) will work for
type 2 CXL
devices which are available/plugged in at boot. A type 2 CXL device can be
simply
thought of as an accelerator with coherent device memory, that also has a
CXL.cache to cache system memory.

One could envision that BIOS/UEFI could expose the HDM in EFI memory map
as conventional memory as well as in ACPI SRAT/SLIT/HMAT. However, at
least
on some architectures (arm64) EFI conventional memory available at kernel
boot
memory cannot be offlined, so this may not be suitable on all architectures.

That seems an odd restriction. Add David, linux-mm, and linux-acpi as
they might be interested / have comments on this restriction as well.


I am missing some important details.

a) What happens after offlining? Will the memory be remove_memory()'ed?
Will the device get physically unplugged?

Not always IMO. If the device was getting reset, the HDM memory is going to be
unavailable while device is reset. Offlining the memory around the reset would

Ouch, that speaks IMHO completely against exposing it as System RAM as default.

be sufficient, but depending if driver had done the add_memory in probe,
it perhaps would be onerous to have to remove_memory as well before reset,
and then add it back after reset. I realize you’re saying such a procedure
would be abusing hotplug framework, and we could perhaps require that memory
be removed prior to reset, but not clear to me that it *must* be removed for
correctness.

Another usecase of offlining without removing HDM could be around
Virtualization/passing entire device with its memory to a VM. If device was
being used in the host kernel, and is then unbound, and bound to vfio-pci
(vfio-cxl?), would we expect vfio-pci to add_memory_driver_managed?

At least for passing through memory to VMs (via KVM), you don't actually need struct pages / memory exposed to the buddy via add_memory_driver_managed(). Actually, doing that sounds like the wrong approach.

E.g., you would "allocate" the memory via devdax/dax_hmat and directly map the resulting device into guest address space. At least that's what some people are doing with

--
Thanks,

David / dhildenb




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