On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:17 AM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 4:29 AM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, Rafael, > >> > >> "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:18 AM Rong Chen <rong.a.chen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 3/5/20 3:50 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > >> >> > On 3/5/2020 2:35 AM, kernel test robot wrote: > >> >> >> Greeting, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> FYI, we noticed a 210.0% improvement of fwq.fwq.med due to commit: > >> >> > > >> >> > Well, that sounds impressive. :-) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> commit: 909c0e9cc11ba39fa5a660583b25c2431cf54deb ("cpufreq: > >> >> >> intel_pstate: Use passive mode by default without HWP") > >> >> >> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git > >> >> >> intel_pstate-passive > >> >> >> > >> >> >> in testcase: fwq > >> >> >> on test machine: 16 threads Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1541 @ 2.10GHz > >> >> >> with 48G memory > >> >> >> with following parameters: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> nr_task: 100% > >> >> >> samples: 100000ss > >> >> >> iterations: 18x > >> >> >> cpufreq_governor: powersave > >> >> > > >> >> > The governor should be schedutil, though, unless it is explicitly set > >> >> > to powersave in the test environment. > >> >> > > >> >> > Is that the case? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Hi Rafael, > >> >> > >> >> Yes, we set to powersave for this test. > >> > > >> > I wonder why this is done? Is there any particular technical reason > >> > for doing that? > >> > >> fwq is a noise benchmark to measure the hardware and software noise > >> level. More information could be found in the following document. > >> > >> https://asc.llnl.gov/sequoia/benchmarks/FTQ_summary_v1.1.pdf > >> > >> In 0day, to measure the noise introduced by power management, we will > >> run fwq with the performance and powersave governors. Do you think this > >> is reasonable? Or we should use some other governors? > > > > I think that the schedutil governor should be tested too if present. > > > > Also note that for the intel_pstate driver "powersave" may mean > > different things depending on the current operation mode of the > > driver. If scaling_driver is "intel_pstate", then "powersave" is the > > driver's built-in algorithm. If scaling_driver is "intel_cpufreq", > > though, "powersave" means running at the minimum frequency all the > > time. > > Thanks for your guidance. We will test schedutil governor in the future > too. > > As for powersave, should we stop testing it? You cannot stop testing it, because it is the default governor algorithm for intel_pstate working in the active mode. > Or just pay attention to the possible issue you pointed out? Yes, please! Basically, I would recommend to test the following configurations by default: (1) scaling_driver = intel_pstate + scaling_governor = powersave (2) scaling_driver = intel_cpufreq + scaling_governor = schedutil The other ones are kind of less interesting. [Note that in order to switch over from intel_pstate to intel_cpufreq, you need to write "passive" into /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/status and if that write fails, configuration (2) is not available and may be skipped.] > Should we add ondemand governor? Not necessarily, maybe as a reference only if you have spare cycles. Thanks!