Re: [PATCH 2/4] PCI: Query platform firmware for device power state

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On Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:49:43 PM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 03:01:33PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 12:50:24 PM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 02:21:30AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 08:15:18 AM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	if (!adev || !acpi_device_power_manageable(adev))
> > > > > +		return PCI_UNKNOWN;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	if (acpi_device_get_power(adev, &state) || state < ACPI_STATE_D0
> > > > > +						|| state > ACPI_STATE_D3_COLD)
> > > > 
> > > > If the device is power-manageable by ACPI (you've just checked that) and
> > > > acpi_device_get_power() returns success (0), the returned state is
> > > > guaranteed to be within the boundaries (if it isn't, there is a bug that
> > > > needs to be fixed).
> > > 
> > > No, acpi_device_get_power() can also return ACPI_STATE_UNKNOWN, which has
> > > the value 0xff.
> > 
> > That would be the case without power resources or _PSC, right?
> 
> There's this check in acpi_device_get_power():
> 
>                 else if (result == ACPI_STATE_UNKNOWN)
>                         result = psc > ACPI_STATE_D2 ? ACPI_STATE_D3_HOT : psc;
> 
> where "result" has been set further up by acpi_power_get_inferred_state().
> If acpi_power_get_inferred_state() does return this value

It doesn't.

> and _PSC is not present (i.e. device->power.flags.explicit_get is not set),
> then acpi_device_get_power() would return ACPI_STATE_UNKNOWN.
> 
> Also, if the device is not power manageable,

You had a check for that.

> has neither power resources nor _PSC, and its parent has power state
> ACPI_STATE_UNKNOWN, then this will be returned.

With the power-manageable check upfront the only case I can see is when the
device has _PS0, it doesn't have _PR0 (ie. no power resources) and _PSC is not
present.

> > > I could add that to state_conv[] above but then I'd have an array with
> > > 256 integers on the stack, most of them 0, which I don't want.
> > > I could check for != ACPI_STATE_UNKNOWN but checking the boundaries seemed
> > > safer.
> > 
> > Well, I'm not sure in what way it is safer and you get one check instead of
> > two. :-)
> > 
> > > So I maintain that the code is correct.
> > 
> > It simply contains an redundant check.
> 
> Fair enough, I'm only checking for ACPI_STATE_UNKNOWN now.
> 
> 
> > > > >  void pci_update_current_state(struct pci_dev *dev, pci_power_t state)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > -	if (dev->pm_cap) {
> > > > > +	if (platform_pci_get_power_state(dev) == PCI_D3cold) {
> > > > > +		dev->current_state = PCI_D3cold;
> > > > > +	} else if (dev->pm_cap) {
> > > > 
> > > > Why exactly do you need to change this function?
> > > 
> > > It would be pointless to add the ->platform_pci_get_power_state
> > > hook without using it anywhere, wouldn't it?
> > 
> > That depends on what you want to do with it next.  Callers may be added in
> > separate patches, no problem with that.
> 
> I've moved the change of pci_update_current_state() to a separate patch now,
> that will also make it easier to revert it, should anything blow up.
> 
> 
> > pci_update_current_state() is called in a few places with assumptions that
> > need to be re-evaluated to see if they still hold after the changes.  They
> > probably do, but then again, these call sites need to be double checked.
> > If you did that, then fine.
> 
> pci_update_current_state() is called whenever a device is resumed
> (both runtime and after system sleep) and after changing its power
> state using the platform in pci_platform_power_transition().
> 
> With the new patch, pci_update_current_state() will be more accurate
> than it is now:  Laptop hybrid graphics which are not platform-power-
> manageable (older Optimus/ATPX or current MacBook Pro) will power
> down the GPU but its current_state will be D3hot.  That's because
> nouveau/radeon call pci_set_power_state(pdev, PCI_D3cold) and the
> PCI core will only put it in D3hot due to the lack of platform-power-
> manageability.  When the device is resumed, pci_update_current_state()
> will now change the current_state from D3hot to D3cold.  I'm actually
> seeing this on my MacBook Pro.  When the system is subsequently put
> to sleep, direct_complete will still be afforded despite the changed
> current_state because of the first patch in this series.  Works like
> a charm, I'm curious if this causes issues for others, but I doubt it.

Well, we'll see.

> > And if you want to change that logic for PCI, it would be good to change it
> > in the same way for acpi_general_pm_domain which has exactly the same
> > problem.
> 
> Hm, with PCI I can read the PMCSR and detect D3cold by reading the
> vendor ID.  For generic ACPI devices, I don't have that so I have
> to rely on the accuracy of acpi_device_get_power().  However as
> you've pointed out, it might misrepresent D3cold as D3hot, and it
> might incorrectly report D0 even though the device is in a different
> state.  Is it safe to rely on acpi_device_get_power() then?

This is all about optimizing the current suboptimal behavior and that can be
done for the cases when the answer is known to be most likely correct.

Like for example when acpi_device_get_power() reports D3cold (or D1, D2 for
that matter).

IOW, D0 and D3hot may be problematic for different reasons.

> Another idea would be to use acpi_device_get_power() for PCI devices
> without PM capability.  Then we could do away with the "state"
> argument to pci_update_current_state().

That I'm not sure about.

> This too hinges on the
> reliability of acpi_device_get_power() of course.  At least D3cold
> can be detected by reading the vendor ID, so we're not reliant on
> ACPI for that.  I've even got a commit on my development branch
> to make that change, but I can't test it, my machine doesn't have
> PCI devices without PM cap.

Those are rare now. All PCIe will have it and PCI 2.0 and later as well IIRC.

Thanks,
Rafael

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