On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Lukas Wunner <lukas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > thank you for your valuable feedback. > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 02:53:10PM +0100, Andreas Noever wrote: >> - My firmware does not provide the TRPE ACPI method, only XRPE. So >> either TRPE is only post CactusRidge or it is only present in newer >> MBPs. In any case the OS X driver looks for TRPE first and uses XRPE >> only if TRPE does not exists. I suggest we do the same (but see below >> for TRPE). > > I only had the acpidump of an MBA6 (2013) available when I implemented > this and it uses TRPE. I have since been able to obtain the acpidump of > an MBP10 (2012) and you're right, it uses XRPE. Both have the same > controller, Cactus Ridge 4C. It looks like they changed this on machines > introduced 2013. It's just a rename of the method, there are no machines > which have both methods. > > >> - The XRIN GPE fired immediately after the power was cut. The problem >> seems to be that the controller takes a bit to shut down. The solution >> is to poll until XRIL returns 1 before activating the GPE. On "Type 2" >> devices the OS X driver polls up to 300 times with a 1ms sleep in >> between (for me 1 or 2 iterations were always enough). Afaik no >> polling is done on "Type 1" devices. > > Hm, this means that the semantics of XRIN and XRIL changed on Cactus > Ridge. I have changed the behaviour to be exactly as you've specified > above, this works fine on Light Ridge and should hopefully also work > on Cactus Ridge, no distinction between Type 1 and Type 2 necessary. ok > >> Also the OS X interrupt handler checks XRIL >> and only wakes up the device if it returns 0. This was not necessary >> to do on my model - but maybe spurious interrupts can happen with >> newer controllers? > > They're doing lots of stuff which seems superfluous or needlessly > complicated, e.g. they also reset the controller upon driver load using > the XRST method (which exists only on some models). I don't think we > have to do everything exactly as they do as long as it works. > FWIW I haven't seen any spurious XRIN interrupts on Light Ridge. > > >> Concerning TRPE style hardware: It seems that pm is more complicated >> here. I see a bunch of references to SX* ACPI methods (SXFP, SXLV, >> SXIO) and have not yet figured out what they do. Maybe we should not >> enable PM if XRPE is not present until we find someone to test it. > > But you do have the SX* methods on your machine even though it uses > XRPE, right? I've mostly figured out now what these methods are there > for and have documented them extensively in upstream.c. However I cannot > verify if my documentation is accurate as they are not present on my > machine, but perhaps you can if your machine has them. Yes I have these methods but I have no idea what they do. Just that they have to be called before suspend: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/pci/quirks.c#L3175 > SXLV, SXIO and SXIL exist only on Cactus Ridge machines and utilize > the Go2Sx and Ok2Go2Sx pins. Judging by the PCI quirk you've added, > it seems that a Go2Sx dance is necessary on this controller before > power is cut (either by going to S3 / S4 / S5 or by using the Force > Power pin, which is what XRPE / TRPE / SXFP do). > > >> As you have noted the "correct" place to but this logic would be at >> the upstream bridge. Ideally the downstream bridges should go into >> D3hot by themselves if no devices are attached. The NHI as well > > In v2 it works exactly like this now: > https://github.com/l1k/linux/commits/thunderbolt_runpm_v2 > > The trick is to allocate a Thunderbolt port service for the upstream > bridge which we can bind to. In fact I'm allocating such a port service > for *any* PCIe port on Thunderbolt devices, this could be useful for all > sorts of other stuff. Just tested your branch - works nicely (runtime pm, suspend and hibernate)! > Binding to the upstream bridge also allows us to replace the PCI quirk > which delays resume_noirq on the downstream bridges, as demonstrated by > this experimental commit (works fine on Light Ridge but YMMV): > https://github.com/l1k/linux/commit/79e0b8b8fb5da50b63836939f75212f824d8cba7 > > >> (did you by chance check whether the NHI can be put into D3hot without >> killing the thunderbolt tunnels?). > > Amazingly this works. However the NHI does not act on hotplug events > after thunderbolt_suspend() has been called. Even without calling > thunderbolt_suspend(), it seems that the control channel is down > when the NHI is in D3hot, I'm getting RX timeouts. Also, I cannot > see any reduction in power consumption when putting the NHI in D3, > same for the downstream bridges. Interesting. Looks like the NHI is really just a a device on the tb swicht. But then it is understandable that turning it of does not decrease power consumption. > You can test this for yourself by commenting out the two calls to > pm_runtime_get() and pm_runtime_put_autosuspend() in switch.c. > Plug in a Thunderbolt device, wait 10 sec for the NHI to autosuspend, > try accessing the Thunderbolt device. Works for me. > > If the NHI suspended before you had a chance to plug in the device, > invoke "echo on > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:06:00.0/power/control". > Plug in the device and use "echo auto" to let the NHI autosuspend. > > >> (1) should be possible to fix? For (2): D3Cold always requires a >> platform specific mechanism and the pci subsystem only supports ACPI. >> Would it be possible to add an API to tell the pci subsystem that we >> know how to put a specific device(tree) into D3Cold from a platform >> driver [+CC Bjorn]? Then this whole thing would become a normal pci >> suspend operation. > > I simply go to D3cold in the driver's ->runtime_suspend callback. > There's just one small fix necessary in pci_raw_set_power_state() > for this to work. Plus some changes in portdrv to call down to the > port service drivers on each pm transition. (It already does this > for ->suspend and ->resume, we just need the same functionality for > additional pm callbacks). > > >> Bridges in Hotplugged TB devices might have the same PCI ids as the >> "root" bridges (if they use the same TB chip). You probably should >> check that dev is a bridge of the builtin controller (for example by >> checking for the presence of ACPI methods, see the comment in the >> other tb quirks). > > For the upstream bridge I'm checking if its parent is a root port now > to determine if it's a host controller built into the machine. > I think the only chance for a false positive is if two machines are > connected with Thunderbolt and one of them has multiple Thunderbolt > controllers built in. Might look like this: > > RP - UPSB - DSB - UPSB - DSB - RP - RP - UPSB - DSB > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ > local machine remote machine secondary controller on remote I don't think that it is possible to tunnel into a different machine like that :) The root port check should be sufficient. Best Regards Andreas > If the topology indeed looks like this (which I'm not sure of, I lack > the hardware to test it), a thunderbolt_upstream driver will try to > attach to UPSB on the secondary controller of the remote machine but > should bail out because it can't find an ACPI handle for its NHI. > So we should even have this corner case covered. > Best regards, > > Lukas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
