Re: ACPICA serialized objects?

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On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> [resend as plain text]
>>>>
>>>> I want to bundle up an arbitrary ACPI_OBJECT into a copyable stream of
>>>> bytes, is there some standard way to do this?
>>>>
>>>> I'm asking because I want to try to upstream something resembling the
>>>> rusty old acpi_call module to allow users with debugfs access who are
>>>> willing to taint their kernel to evaluate ACPI objects from userspace.
>>>> Presumably there would be a user tool to get object info and to
>>>> evaluate methods, and we could handle translation to/from strings in
>>>> userspace, but I still need some way to shove the data back and forth.
>>>
>>> Please don't do that, this is broken as a concept.
>>>
>>> User space has no idea whatsoever about when and it what conditions a
>>> given AML can be executed in the first place, so in addition to
>>> tainting the kernel it may just outright break things.
>>>
>>> Not to mention the possibility of confusing the kernel's reference
>>> counting and breaking assumptions made by it on the current state of
>>> things based on what AML has been already executed.
>>
>> This is something that I want as a reader of decompiled DSDTs and a
>> writer of drivers.  I think we could do it in a way that it doesn't
>> get used for evil.  For example, make it a module, taint the kernel if
>> it's loaded and enabled, only expose the interface if an actual *boot*
>> parameter allow_user_acpi_calls=1 is set, encourage distros to
>> seriously consider not building the module, disallow it entirely under
>> secure boot, etc.
>>
>> I want to use it for things like "hey, it looks like \NEXP might have
>> a funny value -- let's see what's there without manually figuring out
>> how to peek at the relevant OpRegion".
>
> So please check the debugger thing.
>
> Lv, can you please help Andy with this?
>

Ooh, that's really cool!  It looks like acpidbg -b "execute \WHATEVER"
is *exactly* what I want.  Is there a git tree or up-to-date patchset
that works?  It looks like 4.4-rc3 has some but not all of the pieces
needed.

--Andy
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