On Thursday 30 April 2015 11:41:02 Will Deacon wrote: > Hi Arnd, > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:23:59AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 April 2015 16:53:10 Suravee Suthikulpanit wrote: > > > As for the case where _CCA=0, I think the ACPI driver should essentially > > > communicate the information as HW is non-coherent as described in the > > > spec, and should be calling arch_setup_dma_ops(dev, false). It is true > > > that this in probably less-likely for the ARM64 server platforms. > > > However, I would think that the ACPI driver should not be making such > > > assumption. > > > > Can you add a description to the ACPI spec then to describe in detail what > > "non-coherent" is supposed to mean, and which action the OS is supposed to > > take when accessing data from device or CPU? > > You may be interested in the IORT ACPI companion spec here: > > http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.den0049a/DEN0049A_IO_Remapping_Table.pdf > > On CCA, it says: > > `This value must match the value returned by the _CCA object defined in > the DSDT for the device represented by this node. The attribute can take > the following values: > > - 0x1: The device is fully coherent. No cache maintenance[1] is required for > memory shared with the device which is mapped on CPUs as > Inner Write-Back (IWB), Outer Write-back (OWB), and Inner > shareable (ISH). In addition, during system initialization at cold > boot, or after wakeup from low-power state, if the cache > coherency requires an SMMU override or some specific device > configuration, the platform firmware has to ensure that this has > been done. Therefore the semantics represented by a value of > 0x1 are always correct at the time of hand-off from firmware to > OS. Ok, this part absolutely makes sense. > - 0x0: The device is not coherent. Therefore: > * Cache maintenance is required for memory shared with the > device that is mapped on CPUs as IWB-OWB-ISH. This still seems insufficient. I guess this excludes having to synchronize external bridges or write buffers, but it does not specify what cache maintenance is required. Should there be an "outer-flush"? Should the CPU cache be invalidated or flushed (or both), and do we need to care about caches inside of the device or just inside of the CPU? > * No cache maintenance is required for memory shared with the > device that is mapped on the CPU as device or Non-cacheable. > > All other values are reserved. > > [1] Note: Caching operations described in this document apply to the CPU > caches and any other caches in the system where device memory accesses > can hit.' > > This aside, the documented introduces some useful, related concepts such > as CPM (coherent path to memory) and DACS (device attributes are cacheable > and inner shareable) for describing different IO subsystems. It also has > mechanisms to descibe ID repainting from PCI->SMMU->ITS. Ah, good. Arnd -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html