On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 09:57:13PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:51:03PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote: > > > It seems to me that the only way to end up in a situation where the data > > is reused by other OSes, is to go through a standards body. What about > > attempting to standardize the _DSM method? I suppose the challenge then > > is how do we standardize arbitrary data (which, of course, is an > > oxymoron)... > > Right. We could certainly spec the DT bindings that currently exist, but > the obvious pushback is that large chunks of it *are* already in ACPI - > a _PS0 method (which is ACPI for "Power up the device") that toggles a > GPIO pin, and then provides a different GPIO pin in the DT data, which > would we believe? > > > The interesting thing about this to me is that many of these devices are > > added after-the-fact (as add-on boards, for example). With the > > MinnowBoard we are looking to provide this configuration data in an > > EEPROM. Would it make sense for the device manufacturer (rather than the > > base-board manufacturer) to define the key-value pairs for their > > hardware? > > Yes, hardware information that's on add-in boards should probably be > provided by the add-in board if it carries a ROM. This is trivial on > UEFI systems - you just need a UEFI driver for the board that can > construct an appropriate SSDT. It's more of a problem for non-UEFI ACPI > systems. > > > Sadly, I will not be in New Orleans and am unlikely to receive a Kernel > > Summit invite, but I am planning be in Edinburgh and would like the > > opportunity to participate in this discussion. > > I'm not planning on being at kernel summit this year, so I think we'll > try to arrange something around that time but outside the event. > For my part I'll be in New Orleans but not in Edinburgh. Meeting in Edinburgh for the DT/ACPI discussion would of course be an incentive to be there even without KS invitation, but it is too far to travel just for that purpose. Guenter -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html