On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thursday, January 03, 2013 02:44:32 PM Bjorn Helgaas wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Thursday, January 03, 2013 08:16:26 AM Bjorn Helgaas wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> > >> >> > As the kernel Bugzilla report #42696 indicates, it generally is not >> >> > sufficient to use _ADR to get an ACPI device node corresponding to >> >> > the given PCI device, because there may be multiple objects with >> >> > matching _ADR in the ACPI namespace (this probably is against the >> >> > spec, but it evidently happens in practice). >> >> >> >> I don't see anything in sec 6.1.1 (_ADR) that precludes having >> >> multiple objects that contain the same _ADR. Do you have any other >> >> pointers? >> > >> > Section 6.1 implicitly means that. It says that for PCI devices _ADR >> > must be present to identify which device is represented by the given >> > ACPI node. Next, Section 6.1.1 says that the parent bus should be inferred >> > from the location of the _ADR object's device package in the ACPI namespace, >> > so clearly, if that's under the PCI root bridge ACPI node, the _ADR >> > corresponds to a PCI device's bus address. >> >> I agree that for namespace Devices below a PCI host bridge, the _ADR >> value and its position in the hierarchy is required to be sufficient >> to identify a PCI device and function (or the set of all functions on >> a device #). >> >> > Then, Table 6-139 specifies the format of _ADR for PCI devices as being >> > euqivalent to devfn, which means that if two nodes with the same _ADR are >> > present in one scope (under one parent), then it is impossible to distinguish >> > between them and that's against Section 6.1. >> >> This is the bit I don't understand. Where's the requirement that we >> be able to distinguish between two namespace nodes with the same _ADR? > > According to the spec we can't (if they are under the same parent) and that's > the whole problem. It's only a problem if you make the assumptions Linux does. I can imagine a system with different assumptions. For example, an OS could start with PCI device X and ask "please run any _PS0 method that matches X." In that case, you don't care how many objects have an _ADR that matches X; you merely find *any* matching object that contains _PS0. >> Linux assumes we can start from a PCI device and identify a single >> related ACPI namespace node, e.g., in acpi_pci_find_device(). But all >> I see in the spec is a requirement that we can start from an ACPI >> namespace node and find a PCI device. So I'm not sure >> acpi_pci_find_device() is based on a valid assumption. > > I think it is. > > Suppose that we have two namespace nodes with the same _ADR under one parent > (PCI bridge ACPI node) and they both contain things like _PS0 and _PS3. Which > one of these are we supposed to use for the power management of the > corresponding PCI device? Because they both would point to the same device, > right? That's a good question. It's more complicated if two objects supply the same method. >> Let's say we want to provide _SUN and _UID. _SUN is a slot number >> that may apply to several PCI functions, while _UID probably refers to >> a single PCI function. Is it legal to provide two namespace objects, >> one with _ADR 0x0003ffff and _SUN, and another with _ADR 0x00030000 >> and _UID? > > I don't think it is valid to do that. Is there something in the spec that says you can't? I can imagine a BIOS writer doing that, and I don't know how I could convince him that it's illegal. It would be really interesting to try some of these scenarios on Windows with qemu. Bjorn -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html