On 11/30/2012 01:03 AM, Toshi Kani wrote: > On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 11:15 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:41:36 AM Toshi Kani wrote: >>> On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:05 +0800, Hanjun Guo wrote: >>>> On 2012/11/24 1:50, Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote: >>>>> As discussed in https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1581581/ >>>>> the driver core remove function needs to always succeed. This means we need >>>>> to know that the device can be successfully removed before acpi_bus_trim / >>>>> acpi_bus_hot_remove_device are called. This can cause panics when OSPM-initiated >>>>> or SCI-initiated eject of memory devices fail e.g with: >>>>> echo 1 >/sys/bus/pci/devices/PNP0C80:XX/eject >>>>> >>>>> since the ACPI core goes ahead and ejects the device regardless of whether the >>>>> the memory is still in use or not. >>>>> >>>>> For this reason a new acpi_device operation called prepare_remove is introduced. >>>>> This operation should be registered for acpi devices whose removal (from kernel >>>>> perspective) can fail. Memory devices fall in this category. >>>>> >>>>> acpi_bus_remove() is changed to handle removal in 2 steps: >>>>> - preparation for removal i.e. perform part of removal that can fail. Should >>>>> succeed for device and all its children. >>>>> - if above step was successfull, proceed to actual device removal >>>> >>>> Hi Vasilis, >>>> We met the same problem when we doing computer node hotplug, It is a good idea >>>> to introduce prepare_remove before actual device removal. >>>> >>>> I think we could do more in prepare_remove, such as rollback. In most cases, we can >>>> offline most of memory sections except kernel used pages now, should we rollback >>>> and online the memory sections when prepare_remove failed ? >>> >>> I think hot-plug operation should have all-or-nothing semantics. That >>> is, an operation should either complete successfully, or rollback to the >>> original state. >> >> That's correct. >> >>>> As you may know, the ACPI based hotplug framework we are working on already addressed >>>> this problem, and the way we slove this problem is a bit like yours. >>>> >>>> We introduce hp_ops in struct acpi_device_ops: >>>> struct acpi_device_ops { >>>> acpi_op_add add; >>>> acpi_op_remove remove; >>>> acpi_op_start start; >>>> acpi_op_bind bind; >>>> acpi_op_unbind unbind; >>>> acpi_op_notify notify; >>>> #ifdef CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG >>>> struct acpihp_dev_ops *hp_ops; >>>> #endif /* CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG */ >>>> }; >>>> >>>> in hp_ops, we divide the prepare_remove into six small steps, that is: >>>> 1) pre_release(): optional step to mark device going to be removed/busy >>>> 2) release(): reclaim device from running system >>>> 3) post_release(): rollback if cancelled by user or error happened >>>> 4) pre_unconfigure(): optional step to solve possible dependency issue >>>> 5) unconfigure(): remove devices from running system >>>> 6) post_unconfigure(): free resources used by devices >>>> >>>> In this way, we can easily rollback if error happens. >>>> How do you think of this solution, any suggestion ? I think we can achieve >>>> a better way for sharing ideas. :) >>> >>> Yes, sharing idea is good. :) I do not know if we need all 6 steps (I >>> have not looked at all your changes yet..), but in my mind, a hot-plug >>> operation should be composed with the following 3 phases. >>> >>> 1. Validate phase - Verify if the request is a supported operation. All >>> known restrictions are verified at this phase. For instance, if a >>> hot-remove request involves kernel memory, it is failed in this phase. >>> Since this phase makes no change, no rollback is necessary to fail. >> >> Actually, we can't do it this way, because the conditions may change between >> the check and the execution. So the first phase needs to involve execution >> to some extent, although only as far as it remains reversible. > > For memory hot-remove, we can check if the target memory ranges are > within ZONE_MOVABLE. We should not allow user to change this setup > during hot-remove operation. Other things may be to check if a target > node contains cpu0 (until it is supported), the console UART (assuming > we cannot delete it), etc. We should avoid doing rollback as much as we > can. Fengguang from Intel is working on a patchset to hot-remove CPU0(BSP) on x86 platforms and he has posted several versions. Maybe we could eventually remove CPU0 on x86. > > Thanks, > -Toshi > > >>> 2. Execute phase - Perform hot-add / hot-remove operation that can be >>> rolled-back in case of error or cancel. >> >> I would just merge 1 and 2. >> >>> 3. Commit phase - Perform the final hot-add / hot-remove operation that >>> cannot be rolled-back. No error / cancel is allowed in this phase. For >>> instance, eject operation is performed at this phase. >> >> Yup. >> >> Thanks, >> Rafael >> >> > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html