On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 00:49 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 02:02:48 PM Toshi Kani wrote: > > > > > > > > > Consider the following case: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We hotremove the memory device by SCI and unbind it from the driver at the same time: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CPUa CPUb > > > > > > > > > acpi_memory_device_notify() > > > > > > > > > unbind it from the driver > > > > > > > > > acpi_bus_hot_remove_device() > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we make acpi_bus_remove() to fail if a given acpi_device is not > > > > > > > > bound with a driver? If so, can we make the unbind operation to perform > > > > > > > > unbind only? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acpi_bus_remove_device could check if the driver is present, and return -ENODEV > > > > > > > if it's not present (dev->driver == NULL). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But there can still be a race between an eject and an unbind operation happening > > > > > > > simultaneously. This seems like a general problem to me i.e. not specific to an > > > > > > > acpi memory device. How do we ensure an eject does not race with a driver unbind > > > > > > > for other acpi devices? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a per-device lock in acpi-core or device-core that can prevent this from > > > > > > > happening? Driver core does a device_lock(dev) on all operations, but this is > > > > > > > probably not grabbed on SCI-initiated acpi ejects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since driver_unbind() calls device_lock(dev->parent) before calling > > > > > > device_release_driver(), I am wondering if we can call > > > > > > device_lock(dev->dev->parent) at the beginning of acpi_bus_remove() > > > > > > (i.e. before calling pre_remove) and fails if dev->driver is NULL. The > > > > > > parent lock is otherwise released after device_release_driver() is done. > > > > > > > > > > I would be careful. You may introduce some subtle locking-related issues > > > > > this way. > > > > > > > > Right. This requires careful inspection and testing. As far as the > > > > locking is concerned, I am not keen on using fine grained locking for > > > > hot-plug. It is much simpler and solid if we serialize such operations. > > > > > > > > > Besides, there may be an alternative approach to all this. For example, > > > > > what if we don't remove struct device objects on eject? The ACPI handles > > > > > associated with them don't go away in that case after all, do they? > > > > > > > > Umm... Sorry, I am not getting your point. The issue is that we need > > > > to be able to fail a request when memory range cannot be off-lined. > > > > Otherwise, we end up ejecting online memory range. > > > > > > Yes, this is the major one. The minor issue, however, is a race condition > > > between unbinding a driver from a device and removing the device if I > > > understand it correctly. Which will go away automatically if the device is > > > not removed in the first place. Or so I would think. :-) > > > > I see. I do not think whether or not the device is removed on eject > > makes any difference here. The issue is that after driver_unbind() is > > done, acpi_bus_hot_remove_device() no longer calls the ACPI memory > > driver (hence, it cannot fail in prepare_remove), and goes ahead to call > > _EJ0. > > I see two reasons for calling acpi_bus_hot_remove_device() for memory (correct > me if I'm wrong): (1) from the memhotplug driver's notify handler and (2) from > acpi_eject_store() which is exposed through sysfs. Yes, that is correct. > If we disabled exposing > acpi_eject_store() for memory devices, then the only way would be from the > notify handler. So I wonder if driver_unbind() shouldn't just uninstall the > notify handler for memory (so that memory eject events are simply dropped on > the floor after unbinding the driver)? If driver_unbind() happens before an eject request, we do not have a problem. acpi_eject_store() fails if a driver is not bound to the device. acpi_memory_device_notify() fails as well. The race condition Wen pointed out (see the top of this email) is that driver_unbind() may come in while eject operation is in-progress. This is why I mentioned the following in previous email. > So, we basically need to either 1) serialize > acpi_bus_hot_remove_device() and driver_unbind(), or 2) make > acpi_bus_hot_remove_device() to fail if driver_unbind() is run > during the operation. Thanks, -Toshi -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html