On Monday, November 26, 2012 02:09:54 PM Toshi Kani wrote: > On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 21:44 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Monday, November 26, 2012 12:06:39 PM Toshi Kani wrote: > > > On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 23:37 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > On Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:01:56 PM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, November 08, 2012 01:23:44 PM Toshi Kani wrote: > > > > > > Added a new .sys_notify interface, which allows ACPI drivers to > > > > > > register their system-level (ex. hotplug) notify handlers through > > > > > > their acpi_driver table. This removes redundant ACPI namespace > > > > > > walks from ACPI drivers for faster booting. > > > > > > > > > > > > The global notify handler acpi_bus_notify() is called for all > > > > > > system-level ACPI notifications, which then calls an appropriate > > > > > > driver's handler if any. ACPI drivers no longer need to register > > > > > > or unregister driver's handler to each ACPI device object. It also > > > > > > supports dynamic ACPI namespace with LoadTable & Unload opcode > > > > > > without any modification in ACPI drivers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Added a common system notify handler acpi_bus_sys_notify(), which > > > > > > allows ACPI drivers to set it to .sys_notify when this function is > > > > > > fully implemented. > > > > > > > > > > I don't really understand this. > > > > > > > > > > > It removes functional conflict between driver's > > > > > > notify handler and the global notify handler acpi_bus_notify(). > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that the changes maintain backward compatibility for ACPI > > > > > > drivers. Any drivers registered their hotplug handler through the > > > > > > existing interfaces, such as acpi_install_notify_handler() and > > > > > > register_acpi_bus_notifier(), will continue to work as before. > > > > > > > > > > I really wouldn't like to add new callbacks to struct acpi_device_ops, because > > > > > I'd like that whole thing to go away entirely eventually, along with struct > > > > > acpi_driver. > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, in this particular case, it really is not useful to have to define > > > > > a struct acpi_driver so that one can register for receiving system > > > > > notifications from ACPI. It would be really nice if non-ACPI drivers, such > > > > > as PCI or platform, could do that too. > > > > > > > > Which they do by using acpi_install_notify_handler() directly. > > > > > > By using acpi_install_notify_handler(), each driver needs to walk > > > through the entire ACPI namespace to find its associated ACPI devices > > > and call it to register one by one. I think this is more work for > > > non-ACPI drivers than defining acpi_driver. > > > > I'm not really sure what you mean. The drivers in question already know > > what the relevant ACPI device nodes are (because they need them anyway > > for other purposes), so they don't need to look for them specifically and > > acpi_install_notify_handler() doesn't do any namespace walking. So what > > you said above simply doesn't make sense from this viewpoint. > > Yes, if drivers already know the relevant ACPI devices, then walking the > ACPI namespace is not necessary. I was referring the case like > processor_driver.c, acpi_memhotplug.c, and container.c in my statement. OK, I need to have a deeper look at those things and I'm not sure when that happens (everybody is sending me patches like mad right now). > > > Furthermore, this approach > > > will impose some major issues below. (NOTE: Hot-plug implementation > > > varies in platforms/virtual machines. These are examples from our IA64 > > > platforms supported by other OS, but I hope Linux would support similar > > > capability in future.) > > > > > > a) Node Hot-plug > > > When a new node is added, the FW may extend the ACPI namespace by > > > loading SSDT for the new node. Therefore, if we rely on drivers to call > > > acpi_install_notify_handler(), we need to make the drivers to walk the > > > namespace again to call it for new devices. Similarly, the drivers need > > > to call acpi_remove_notify_handler() when a node is removed. > > > > I'm not sure how adding .sys_notify() is going to address this issue. > > In order to use .sys_notify() your driver has to bind to a struct > > acpi_device in the first place, so you need to know that object to use it > > anyway. This isn't any different from having a struct device whose > > ACPI_HANDLE() has been populated by the core and using > > acpi_install_notify_handler() directly on that. > > No, .sys_notify() does not take acpi_device as an argument. acpi_bus_notify() finds a struct acpi_device for the given handle, however, and calls .sys_notify() for the driver attached to it. So a driver has to attach to a struct device to use it (except in the broken acpi_lookup_drv_notify() case, but that's really broken, so let's just not consider it even). > So, the driver does not have to bind to an acpi_device previously. The only > requirement is that the driver needs to call acpi_bus_register_driver() > previously. > > > > > b) Memory hot-plug > > > The FW may slice up the memory range with multiple memory device objects > > > so that logical hot-add/removal can be performed in finer granularity > > > for better resource balancing. For example, a system with 4TB memory > > > sliced up with 1GB memory device objects will have (4 * 1024) memory > > > device objects in ACPI namespace. If each driver walks ACPI namespace, > > > it can lead noticeable delay in such environment. The number of objects > > > can easily go up when supporting more finer granularity or more amount > > > of memory. > > > > Again, I don't see why drivers would have to walk the namespace. > > > > It would be great if you could give a specific example of that. > > Again, processor_driver.c, acpi_memhotplug.c, and container.c are > examples of such case. OK, I'll have a look. Thanks, Rafael -- I speak only for myself. Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html