RE: ACPI errors with 3.7-rc3

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Actually, it is not the address of the global lock, the FACS contains the actual global lock:

>From acpi5.0 spec:

ROM BIOS. The Global Lock is a 32-bit (DWORD) value in read/write memory located within the FACS and is accessed and updated by both the OS environment and the SMI environment in a defined manner to provide an exclusive lock. Note: this is not a pointer to the Global Lock, it is the actual memory location of the lock. The FACS and Global Lock may be located anywhere in physical memory.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: a3at.mail@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:a3at.mail@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Azat
> Khuzhin
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 2:01 AM
> To: Moore, Robert
> Cc: Tang, Feng; Rafael J. Wysocki; Greg KH; linux-acpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> Linux Kernel Mailing List; Zheng, Lv; Len Brown
> Subject: Re: ACPI errors with 3.7-rc3
> 
> Robert,
> 
> You say that FACS table contains the address of the global lock.
> But in my case https://gist.github.com/4037687 it seems to be empty, so
> this means that my laptop don't have global lock?
> 
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Moore, Robert <robert.moore@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> And per my check, most of ACPI FW don't implement this lock, say
> >> after driver probe, the ec->global_lock will be 0
> >
> > Take a look at the FACS table, it contains the address of the global
> lock.
> >
> > I believe that the ACPI specification requires that the global lock be
> present.
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tang, Feng
> >> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:36 AM
> >> To: Moore, Robert
> >> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki; Greg KH; Azat Khuzhin;
> >> linux-acpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Linux Kernel Mailing List; Zheng, Lv; Len
> >> Brown
> >> Subject: Re: ACPI errors with 3.7-rc3
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 10:30:43PM +0800, Moore, Robert wrote:
> >> > The ACPI Global Lock is in fact intended to provide exclusion
> >> > between
> >> the BIOS and the OS.
> >> > Bob
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info.
> >>
> >> And per my check, most of ACPI FW don't implement this lock, say
> >> after driver probe, the ec->global_lock will be 0.
> >>
> >> - Feng
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Tang, Feng
> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:29 AM
> >> > > To: Rafael J. Wysocki
> >> > > Cc: Greg KH; Azat Khuzhin; linux-acpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Linux
> >> > > Kernel Mailing List; Zheng, Lv; Len Brown; Moore, Robert
> >> > > Subject: Re: ACPI errors with 3.7-rc3
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 05:49:40AM +0800, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> > > > On Tuesday, November 06, 2012 01:48:26 PM Greg KH wrote:
> >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:42:24PM +0400, Azat Khuzhin wrote:
> >> > > > > > I'v also have such errors on my macbook pro.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > $ dmesg | tail
> >> > > > > > [17056.008564] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
> >> > > > > > [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.SMB0.SBRW] (Node ffff88026547ea10),
> >> > > > > > AE_TIME
> >> > > > > > (20120711/psparse-536)
> >> > > > > > [17056.011194] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
> >> > > > > > [\_SB_.BAT0.UBST] (Node ffff88026547e678), AE_TIME
> >> > > > > > (20120711/psparse-536)
> >> > > > > > [17056.013793] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
> >> > > > > > [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node ffff88026547e740), AE_TIME
> >> > > > > > (20120711/psparse-536)
> >> > > > > > [17056.016383] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Evaluating _BST
> >> > > > > > (20120711/battery-464) [17056.511373] ACPI: EC: input
> >> > > > > > buffer is not empty, aborting transaction [17056.512672]
> >> > > > > > ACPI
> >> Exception:
> >> > > > > > AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl]
> >> > > > > > (20120711/evregion-501) [17056.515256] ACPI Error: Method
> >> > > > > > parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.SMB0.SBRW]
> >> > > > > > (Node ffff88026547ea10), AE_TIME
> >> > > > > > (20120711/psparse-536)
> >> > > > > > [17056.517886] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
> >> > > > > > [\_SB_.BAT0.UBST] (Node ffff88026547e678), AE_TIME
> >> > > > > > (20120711/psparse-536)
> >> > > > > > [17056.520479] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
> >> > > > > > [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node ffff88026547e740), AE_TIME
> >> > > > > > (20120711/psparse-536)
> >> > > > > > [17056.523070] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Evaluating _BST
> >> > > > > > (20120711/battery-464)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'm seeing this again right now.  I'm wondering if it's
> >> > > > > because I'm running on battery power at the moment:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [41694.309264] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Returned by Handler
> >> > > > > for [EmbeddedControl] (20120913/evregion-501) [41694.309282]
> >> > > > > ACPI
> >> Error:
> >> > > > > Method parse/execution failed
> >> > > > > [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.SMB0.SBRW] (Node ffff88045cc64618),
> >> > > > > AE_TIME (20120913/psparse-536) [41694.309300] ACPI Error:
> >> > > > > Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0.UBST] (Node
> >> > > > > ffff88045cc64988), AE_TIME
> >> > > > > (20120913/psparse-536) [41694.309310] ACPI Error: Method
> >> > > > > parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node
> >> > > > > ffff88045cc648c0), AE_TIME (20120913/psparse-536)
> >> > > > > [41694.309324] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Evaluating _BST
> >> > > > > (20120913/battery-464) [41694.809093] ACPI: EC: input buffer
> >> > > > > is not empty, aborting transaction
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ec_storm_threshold is still set to 8 in
> >> > > > > /sys/module/acpi/parameters/ so that's not the issue here.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > And also loadavg is too high ~ 10 While there is no process
> >> > > > > > that load CPU up to 100% or like that.
> >> > > > > > I think that this because of processes that is done in
> >> > > > > > kernel
> >> space.
> >> > > > > > (basically that one who write such errors)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > $ uname -a
> >> > > > > > Linux macbook-pro-sq 3.6.5macbook-pro-custom-v0.1 #4 SMP
> >> > > > > > Sun Nov 4
> >> > > > > > 12:39:03 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Ah, ok, that means it's not something new in 3.7-rc, so maybe
> >> > > > > it's just never worked properly for this hardware :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > So it's not a regression, just an ACPI issue, any ACPI
> >> > > > > developer have an idea about this?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Can you please send the output of acpidump from the affected
> >> machine(s)?
> >> > >
> >> > > I doubt this problem is sometimes inevitable for some machines,
> >> > > because AFAIK most modern machines have the race problem for EC
> >> > > HW controller, as both OS side and the BIOS may access the EC HW
> >> > > at the same time without any race control.
> >> > >
> >> > > For this case, usually the battery and thermal modules (which may
> >> > > be controlled through EC) are always monitored by BIOS, when OS
> >> > > also frequently visit them too, the EC's own state machine may be
> >> > > broken and not responsive due to the race, then cause the timeout
> error.
> >> > > And how severe the problem will be depends on the EC HW, the
> >> > > quality of BIOS code and OS/driver code.
> >> > >
> >> > > Myself have seen the similar "ACPI: EC: input buffer is not
> >> > > empty, aborting transaction" error message on one laptop when its
> >> > > EC is busy visited by OS.
> >> > >
> >> > > btw, in EC driver I see a "ec->global_lock", don't know if it was
> >> > > designed to control the race between OS and BIOS.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Feng
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Azat Khuzhin
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