Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] Consolidate cpuidle timekeeping and irq enabling

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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Colin Cross <ccross@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Rob Lee <rob.lee@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Maintainers for drivers/cpuidle, do you have any comments/opinions
>> about this patch?
>>
>> Intel cpuidle and acpi cpuidle maintainers, do you have any
>> comments/opinions about this patch and the changes to your code?
>>
>> Any other review and comments welcome.
>>
>> Summary of positive and negatives as I understand them so far:
>>
>> version 1, 2, and 3 (Original "wrapper" method of consolidating
>> timekeeping and interrupt enabling)
>> + opportunistically provides consolidation for simple platform cpuidle
>> implementations without disturbing the more complex implementations.
>> By simple, I mean those at can be wrapped in the time keeping calls
>> and interrupt enabling calls without significantly affecting idle time
>> keeping accuracy or interrupt latency
>> - Does not provide consolidation for the more complex platform cpuidle
>> implementations
>> - Adds an additional interface, perhaps unnecessarily if this
>> consolidation could be done in cpuidle
>>
>> version 4 (modifications to drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle.c cpuidle_idle_call)
>> + Adds consolidation work to cpuidle_idle_call which allows all
>> platform timekeeping / interrupt handling to be consolidated.
>
> I think the question of what the timekeeping means needs to be
> considered.  If the timekeeping is supposed to be a very accurate
> measurement of the time spent in the low power idle state, only the
> cpuidle driver can guarantee that - there may be significant time
> spent in the hardware transition or the very low level power code that
> cannot be split into pre_enter, but should not be counted in the
> timekeeping.  Or there may be a long boot time out of the low power
> state that should not be counted.  If it is just a rough estimate of
> how often the cpu is getting to idle, there is no need to split out
> the pre_enter time - just measure the time around the entire driver
> enter call.  Either way, pre_enter doesn't seem useful.
>
>> - Requires splitting up of more complex platform cpuidle
>> implementations, adding further complexity and risk of breaking
>> something.
>> ? Allows both pre_enter or enter to change the idle state.  Is there
>> an objection to this?
>
> pre_enter (if it is kept) would probably have to support state
> demotion, because its actions may depend on the final state.  For
> coupled SMP cpuidle, enter also has to support state demotion, because
> the final state will depend on actions of the other cpu after idle has
> been entered.
>
>> ? Splitting up the enter functions can require additional function
>> calls.  Is there any concern that this is significant additional
>> overhead?
>
> I don't think so, especially if you support NULL pre_enter and
> post_enter functions to allow drivers that care to skip them.

Colin, thanks for your comments.  For now, my plan is to release a v5
buy the end of this week that is a continuation of v3 (using an
optional wrapper for consolidation of time keeping and irq enabling).
The slightly non-positive feedback for the OMAP3 changes and the lack
of feedback from the intel and acpi cpuidle maintainers have swayed me
toward this direction.  I can continue working towards a solution in
cpuidle_idle_call after this patch series if folks voice a preference
for doing so.
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