On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:05:04AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Cong Wang <amwang@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > Eric, any comments? > > You have my Nack. > > We are doing stupid and unnecessary things, that cause us problems with > EFI. If we stop doing those stupid and unnecessary things we won't have > problems. > > So I don't see the point of adding more stupid and unnecessary work, so > we can continue to do stupid and unnecessary things and cause ourselves > problems. Hi Eric, I went through your proposal in last mail and frankly speaking I understand very little of it (due to my lack of knowledge in this area). Had couple of very high level thoughts though. - Matthew raised the issue of ACPI not being complete replacement as reboot path uses EFI. - I am assuming with this notion of run time services in EFI, one can expect more and more issues down the line where people will want to call into EFI. So trying to enforce this notion that never call EFI from kernel once kernel is booted and isolate the EFI runtime services to make kexec/kdump work might not be best solution. Matthew and I were chatting in general about it couple of days back and mattew suggested how about if we embrace the idea of booting the kernel always in physical mode (both first and second) and keep that extra set of pagetables around to make EFI calls. That way kexec/kdump should just work and kernel changes also might not be too much. The potential problem with this is that this might expose various kind of BIOS issues with different vendors as vendors might not test the physical path. May be we can give it a try and see if it flies? Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html