> -----Original Message----- > From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [mailto:hmh@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:11 AM > To: Thomas Renninger > Cc: Zhang, Rui; R, Durgadoss; jdelvare@xxxxxxxxxx; Len Brown; linux- > acpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Kay Sievers; linux-perf-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-trace-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Thermal kernel events API to userspace - Was: Re: thermal: > Avoid CONFIG_NET compile dependency > Importance: High > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, Thomas Renninger wrote: > > > > Please give us at least two levels of thermal alarm: critical and > emergency > > > > (or warning and critical -- it doesn't matter much, as long as > there are at > > > > least two levels, and which one comes first is defined by the > > > > specification). I'd have immediate use for them on thinkpads. > > What kind of thinkpad specific events are these and what actions > > should be taken if they happen? > > So far: Battery temperature critical and emergency, Generic system > sensor > temperature critical and emergency. > > In all cases, the recommended actions are imediate notification for the > user, and in the case of the emergency level, immediate action, where > action > is "suspend to ram" or shutdown. > > Right now all they do is to prinkt at suitable "horrible things are > about to > happen" severity levels (KERN_CRIT for critical, and KERN_ALERT for > emergency). In a few sensible desktop environments and distros, this > causes > a notification to show up on the user's screen. > > Oh, and it also relays the thinkpad-specific event through the ACPI > event > pipe, but I don't know of any userspace application doing something > with it, > and nobody ever tried to bribe me into writing one by suppling me with > a new > T-series thinkpad :) > > > I wonder which events would need userspace to take specific > > (configured) actions at all and what kind of action it could be. > > All of them can have sensible generic actions. See my other email. > > > What is THERMAL_USER_AUX0? > > When will it get thrown and what is userspace expected to do? > > Good question. What use are those "user defined" events in a generic > interface, anyway? You will have to know exactly what device is > issuing the > "generic user defined" event, and what it means for that device. > > When you need a device-specific interface, you design one that is well > defined, such as thinkpad-acpi's thinkpad-specific "acpi" events. If > you > get any thinkpad-acpi specific event, you know exactly what it is, and > nothing else ever issues those events, so you will never get them from > somewhere else with a different meaning. > I think you are talking about something like this: enum events { /* generic thermal event */ THERMAL_WARN, THERMAL_EMERG, THERMAL_CRIT, /* coretemp thermal events */ TEHRMAL_CT_AUX0, TEHRMAL_CT_AUX1, /* Thinkpad battery thermal events */ THERMAL_TP_BAT_CRIT, THERMAL_TP_BAT_EMERG, THERMAL_DEV_FAULT, }; Right? > -- > "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring > them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond > where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot > Henrique Holschuh -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html