On Fri, 22 May 2009 09:22:31 +0800 Fu Michael <michael_fu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jesse Barnes wrote: > > On Thu, 21 May 2009 16:57:53 +0800 > > Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 01:15 +0800, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> > >>>>> There's also a policy question here. On some machines, a lid > >>>>> close will cause the ACPI firmware to program the GPU, > >>>>> disabling the pipe associated with the panel. Should we detect > >>>>> this and turn it back on at open time? That could be dangerous > >>>>> if userspace has received the LVDS hotplug event and changed > >>>>> the config out from under us... > >>>>> > >>>>> Comments? > >>>>> > >>>> It seems that the LID status is used to determine whether the > >>>> LVDS is connected. > >>>> It is not reliable. On some boxes the initial LID status is > >>>> incorrect. Maybe the LID status is open. But the ACPI returns > >>>> that the LID is close. In such case the LVDS is not initialized > >>>> and user can't get the output. > >>>> > >>> Really? I haven't seen any cases of this. They'll fail in all > >>> sorts of fun ways with modern userland. > >>> > >>> > >> This is rare, and if this happens, a bug should be filed against > >> ACPI. BTW: we have fixed/root caused all such kind of bugs that > >> have been reported. > >> So I think it makes sense to trust the Lid state reported by ACPI > >> button driver. > >> > > > > So is that two acks for the patch? If so, should it be split or > > can it just go in through the i915 driver tree? > > > > Len? (Patch attached for reference.) > > > > Thanks, > > > Jesse, Just talked with Rui, the above status is based on "BIOS > upgrade or FW fix is acceptable as a bug fix solution". are you ok > with this? :) Many lid status has to be fixed via action such as DSDT > upgrade... Yeah, I think that's ok, even if we need quirks for some platforms. I really hate relying on BIOS vendors/OEMs to provide BIOS updates in general: if Windows works on a given platform, why should Linux require a BIOS "fix" on it? In this case though, we can work around broken platforms by just returning "open" all the time, if it comes to that. Jesse -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html