On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 16:49 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 15:51 +0000, Jonathan Buzzard wrote: > > Now if Toshiba who in part wrote the ACPI specification think this is > > the way to go, and the people who know the most about the HCI in the > > free software world also think this is the way to go, what are your > > qualifications to argue with them, given you have virtually no > > knowledge of the Toshiba HCI and would not appear to even own a > > Toshiba designed and manufactured laptop anyway. > > I still own a Satellite Pro A10, model number PSA15E-03U7V-EN. I no > longer use it day-to-day, as it's so very slow compared to my T61. > I am pretty sure that this is not a Toshiba designed and manufactured laptop, but is one of their Compal OEM jobs with a Phoenix BIOS. The Toshiba HCI that I am talking about is not relevant on such a laptop. > I know exactly what HCI is, how it works, and have a good idea of what > it can do. I've written patches for the toshiba_acpi driver before for > the key mapping functionality. Except you don't. By your own admission you thought that you could set things like the supervisor, and user passwords via the BIOS. I notice that nobody has suggested a safe way to do this via echoing stuff in a proc interface... You also questioned whether it is possible to brick a Toshiba laptop using the HCI. If you genuinely understood what it did and was capable of you would not question that. You can do *ANYTHING* purely using the HCI. > In the meantime, you've insulted me enough for one email thread. You have told me what I should be able to do under Linux. You told me that if I want to change BIOS settings I have to reboot because you don't think exposing the HCI interface is a good idea. You have told me that if I want to change the ownerstring I should boot Windows. You have told me that I want to change the supervisor and user passwords I should again boot Windows. If you find my response to your dictation of what I should be able to do insulting look in the mirror. > Len, I would agree with Matthew that the patch should not be merged, and > that any missing functionality should be added to the existing ACPI > driver. Nobody has at this time suggested a workable alternative. It is also not possible to add all the functionality to the existing ACPI drive in the manner in which you suggest. I accept you could add some, but all is not possible. Give that it is not possible to add do what you suggest we need a plan B. If you cannot come up with a plan B and nobody has then the patch should go in. JAB. -- Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk Fife, United Kingdom. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html