Re: Buggy BIOS on the HP TX2500-series

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On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 23:36 -0700, Zhang Rui wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 19:04 -0700, Len Brown wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:59:15AM +0800, Zhang Rui wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 12:26 -0700, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > > > A patch went into the kernel earlier this year to ignore critical trip
> > > > > points that were below 0.
> > > > well, I think this patch is wrong.
> > > > a critical trip point below 0 Celsius doesn't mean it's invalid.
> > >
> > > I think it's pretty clear that a critical trip point below 0 celsius
> > > means that the critical trip point is invalid,
> well, I agree that this workaround can work here.
> But I think the proper way to fix this issue is that,
> ACPICA returns some error code(AE_BAD_DATA) like it did before,
> and the thermal driver knows that it got an invalid value and
> should take it carefully.
Bob, do you mean Windows return 0 in this case?

> or else we may still get potential problems, e.g. what if there
> is no return value of _PSV method.
If it's true, then we don't need to waste our time on this.
it won't happen because windows doesn't work either in this case, unless
it workarounds this problem again like it has done for _CRT, right?

thanks,
rui
> 
> > though I agree that
> > > ignoring the entire thermal zone as a result is somewhat unfortunate.
> > >
> > > > windows can work well on this laptop.
> > > > please look at:
> > > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10686#c13
> > > > IMO, we need to fix the ACPICA code first of all.
> > > >
> > > > Ming, what do you think of the patch in comment #15 and #16?
> > >
> > > We could quibble over the technical correctness of this approach, but it
> > > seems to behave in exactly the same way - ie, Linux will ignore the
> > > thermal zone? The existing code seems fine, other than the fact that a
> > > bad _CRT will result everything failing. I think we'd be better off just
> > > losing the return -ENODEV there and try to use as much of the thermal
> > > information as we can.
> >
> > right, when we put in the workaround we observed that a bad _CRT
> > would delete an entire thermal zone, and that could be a big
> > problem on a box with active cooling on that thermal zone.
> Hmm, I think a patch like this is enough to fix this problem.
> 
> 
> ignore invalid critical trip point.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@xxxxxxxxx>
> ---
>  drivers/acpi/thermal.c |    3 +--
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> Index: linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.orig/drivers/acpi/thermal.c
> +++ linux-2.6/drivers/acpi/thermal.c
> @@ -373,9 +373,8 @@ static int acpi_thermal_trips_update(str
>                 if (ACPI_FAILURE(status) ||
>                                 tz->trips.critical.temperature <= 2732) {
>                         tz->trips.critical.flags.valid = 0;
> -                       ACPI_EXCEPTION((AE_INFO, status,
> +                       ACPI_DEBUG_PRINT((ACPI_DB_WARN,
>                                         "No or invalid critical threshold"));
> -                       return -ENODEV;
>                 } else {
>                         tz->trips.critical.flags.valid = 1;
>                         ACPI_DEBUG_PRINT((ACPI_DB_INFO,
> 
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