From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:22 PM > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 23:14, Michael Kelley (LINUX) > <mikelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > From: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 > 1:55 PM > > > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:28 PM Andy Shevchenko > > > <andy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > My point is that this is clear abuse of the spec and: > > > > 1) we have to enable the broken, because it is already in the wild with > > > > the comment that this is an issue > > > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > 2) issue an ECR / work with MS to make sure they understand the problem. > > > > > > > > This can be done in parallel. What I meant as a prerequisite is to start doing > > > > 2) while we have 1) on table. > > > > > > Oh, okay, that makes sense. If you want to get (2) going, by all means > > > go for it. I have no idea how to do this myself; Ard said something > > > about joining the UEFI forum as an individual something or another but > > > I don't think I'm the man for the job there. Is this something that > > > Intel can do with their existing membership (is that the right term?) > > > at the UEFI forum? Or maybe a Microsoft engineer on the list? > > > > My team at Microsoft, which works on Linux, filed a bug on this > > issue against the Hyper-V team about a year ago, probably when the issue > > was raised during the previous attempt to implement the functionality > > in Linux. I've talked with the Hyper-V dev manager, and they acknowledge > > that the ACPI entry Hyper-V provides to guest VMs violates the spec. But > > changing to an identifier that meets the spec is problematic because > > of backwards compatibility with Windows guests on Hyper-V that > > consume the current identifier. There's no practical way to have Hyper-V > > provide a conformant identifier AND fix all the Windows guests out in > > the wild to consume the new identifier. As a result, at this point Hyper-V > > is not planning to change anything. > > > > It's a lousy state-of-affairs, but as mentioned previously in this thread, > > it seems to be one that we will have to live with. > > > > Thanks for chiming in. > > Why not do something like > > Name (_CID, Package (2) { "VM_GEN_COUNTER", "VMGENCTR" } ) > > ? > > That way, older clients can match on the existing _CID and new clients > can match on the spec compliant one. I'll run this by the Hyper-V guys. I don't have the ACPI expertise to disagree with them when they say they can't change it. :-( Michael