i sent 106, and i received 77 back from the list, so i guess that a few were lost to the list -- but they were all replies to the original author cc the list, so we're not totally hosed... here is a message where i paste some text in from kwrite maybe that is the case where kmail is giving problems... System Information Manufacturer: FUJITSU SIEMENS Product Name: AMILO Pa 2510 Version: 20 Serial Number: 12345678 UUID: 006581C7-5E2A-DB11-B7FE-D1AD14F053E9 Wake-up Type: Power Switch SKU Number: 12345678 Family: AMILO Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 8 bytes Base Board Information Manufacturer: FUJITSU SIEMENS Product Name: F37 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html