On Wednesday, 8 August 2007 02:23, Robert Hancock wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Tue, 07 Aug 2007, Tejun Heo wrote: > >> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >>> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007, Tejun Heo wrote: > >>>> Michael Sedkowski wrote: > >>>>>> Hmmm... If the problem only shows up on nx6325, it might be that ACPI is > >>>>>> pulling unnecessary stunt. Please apply the attached patch and report > >>>>>> when the disk spins down and up. > >>>>> Disk spins down on "Pre-shutdown prepare" and then goes up and down on > >>>>> "Power down". > >>>> Oh... crap, so acpi wants to sync cache on shutdown. I wonder whether > >>>> it spins down the disk correctly. Does emergency unload count increase > >>>> after each power down? Also, please post the result of 'dmidecode'. > >>> You know, this actually make a lot of sense, and one can't even complain > >>> about firmware that pulls that off. > >> Well, I'm complaining. I think the problem here is that it isn't clear > >> which one is who's responsibility. There's a Korean saying which > > > > The BIOS *has* to do it when in DOS mode, the HD manuals are very very clear > > about it. Doing it through ACPI ATA objects is at least non-broken as far > > as these things go, as one knows when to do it directly ("non-ACPI mode"), > > and one doesn't talk to the disk directly. > > > >> approximately translates into "if you have too many boatmen on a ship, > >> it goes to mountain". We also have a bunch of Toshiba laptops which > > > > Yeah, that's a problem. But we can avoid it if we start snooping what ACPI > > is asking us to deliver to the disks, which IMO is an extremely good idea > > anyway. > > Problem is I don't think we can do this. As far as I can tell, on my > Compaq at least, it's not being done through ACPI AML in the DSDT, like > in the _PTS function (which the kernel executes and can snoop), but when > we actually do the power-off we write a value to a magic ACPI register. > That likely triggers the BIOS to take control in SMM mode and access the > controller directly before triggering the power off, which we have no > control or knowledge of. Yes, this also is my observation. Greetings, Rafael -- "Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html