On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 01:18:59PM +0200, Oliver Endriss wrote: > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 04:40:25PM -0700, Trent Piepho wrote: > > > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:56:17PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > > > > > You're describing PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD. The text Zach quoted is from > > > > > > STANDALONE, which is something else completely. That allows us to not > > > > > > build drivers that pull in things from /etc and the like during compile. > > > > > > (Whoever thought that was a good idea?) > > > > > > > > > > Is DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE really still required? > > > > > ALL other drivers work without such an option. > > > > > > > > The other DVB drivers that need firmware load it when the device is opened > > > > or used (ie. a channel is tuned). At least for the ones I'm familiar > > > > with. If they are compiled directly into the kernel, they can still use > > > > FW_LOADER since the loading won't happen until utill well after booting is > > > > done. > > > > > > > > For AV7110, it looks like the firmware loading is done when the driver is > > > > first initialized. If AV7110 is compiled into the kernel, FW_LOADER can > > > > not be used. The filesystem with the firmware won't be mounted yet. > > > > > > > > So AV7110 has an option to compile a firmware file into the driver. > > > > > > But is there a technical reason why this has to be done this way? Is there another way to load firmware in a driver compiled into the kernel? > > > This is the onle (non-OSS) driver doing it this way, and Zach has a > > > point that this is legally questionable. I know there are other DVB drivers that can have firmware compiled in instead of using FW_LOADER. They just don't show that ability in Kconfig, you have to edit the driver to enable compiled in firmware. > > This option _is_ useful because it allows allows a user to build an > > av7110 driver without hotplug etc. I NAK any attempt to remove it. > > If you look at the dependencies of DVB_AV7110 and the code in av7110.c > you'll note that your statement "it allows allows a user to build an > av7110 driver without hotplug" is not true. Looks like a mistake in the Kconfig file: - select FW_LOADER + select FW_LOADER if DVB_AV7110_FIRMWARE=n - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html