Re: New user wanting to help

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Jody,

You behave a bit like a little kid stamping its feet, using phrases like "provides me precisely USD$0.00 in compensation" and "have other things to worry about ". This is not the attitude of a GNU project site maintainer which you volunteered for!

If you don't have the time to maintain the website, i.e. as a minimum keep the "latest news" page up2date (which shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes) than ask somebody else to do it!

Hans
www.ht-lab.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "JBRUCHON" <jbruchon@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <linux-8086@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: New user wanting to help


Or, as "THE site admin," I could just be human like the other 20 or so "site admins" and have other things to worry about beyond following links and editing HTML when I have bills to pay. No one here has any right to tell me what I "should" do when doing so provides me precisely USD$0.00 in compensation. I can convert that amount to Euros or CDN$ or whatever you happen to use if you like, but I'm pretty sure that the conversion is quite easily done by anyone interested in doing such.

Whatever I happen to do comes from the goodness of my own heart and my desire to further such a project. When the priority of ELKS is trumped by the priority of Real Life(tm), I'll do "what I should do." Until then, you can either have patience and wait for me to get free time to do it when life permits such, you can "raise the priority of ELKS" by channeling compensation my way, or you can request addition to the developer list like I did. I'm not a project admin, so I don't have privileges to add new admins or developers, so don't ask.

I'm sure, since they seem to still get this mailing list, that Alan Cox and others can back up the fact that other aspects of life can easily take precedence over ELKS. That, as I understand it, is what happened to them.

In the meantime, please don't make demands of a free volunteer, even if you try to cushion it with the "I don't mean to sound like this, but..." preface. You may not want to sound that way, but guess what? You do. It's disrespectful and rude. Solutions provided above.



**** tl;dr: I'll do it when time permits.


Jody


Hans wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "JBRUCHON" <jbruchon@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <linux-8086@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: New user wanting to help


I'm sort of the current maintainer of the site and the project, but have no access to the mailing list setup at all.

I'm a fairly busy person so I don't do much without being asked to do it, and my web-fu sucks pretty bad.

Sorry Jody, I don't want to sound nasty since I have done 0% contribution myself but we shouldn't have to tell you to add a link. When somebody like Bram Lohman emails the list that he has Elks running on an emulator and that is it freely available to download than you as the site admin should, as a bare minimum, add the link without one of us telling you to do so.

Since you are very busy (which I fully understand) can I suggest you share the admin details with a few more people or better speak to Mario to get a wiki page added.

Back to work :-)

Regards,
Hans.
www.ht-lab.com



If you want something in particular done, give me the resources and I'll get it done.

Ben Weiss wrote:
--- Hans <hans64@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am a bit disappointed that Rask Lambertsen's GCC
port and the Dioscuri emulator (which runs ELKS!) are not mentioned on the website, come on guys, it can't be that much work to add some hyperlinks...

This seems like the easiest thing to fix first, and
makes the project "look" better, so I'd be happy to
provide some updates to the site. Not too much for
now, just keeping with static pages- fixing broken
links, adding some (ie Rasks's port), etc. Does anyone
know who needs to be contacted to update the archive
mentioned on vger.kernel.org? Is this list still even
being archived, or do we have to "sign up" for it? (If
so, gmane comes to mind...)

Compiling ELKS under GCC is not going to be
easy but IMHO will be very beneficial for the wider embedded user community and
hence will/might increase the popularity of ELKS.

Sounds like great minds think alike :)
Not only is GCC much more popular and continuously
maintained, but apparently GCC (GAS, rather) uses AT&T
syntax, and BCC uses Intel syntax. Since Linux uses
GCC, it follows that modifying/porting to ELKS would
be easier if we also use GCC. -Ben



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